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mohina macker

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Mar 10, 2013, 3:17:50 AM3/10/13
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memecylon umbellatum, mahabaleshwar
first week of march, 2013
just starting to flower
regards
mohina macker
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mohina macker

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Mar 11, 2013, 2:10:19 AM3/11/13
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this is an email from Dr Santhosh Kumar 

I think it is Memecylon edule not M. umbellatum
 Santhosh

some information that I could glean from the net

and from indiantreepix
There are two ways to confirm the id:
 
1. If the inflorescence is more or less sessile (stalkless) and the fruits are ripening blue (pl check Mathew, 1983), then it is Memecylong umbellatum. In M. edule the umbels are long stalked and the fruits are yellowish.
 
2. When you taste the leaves of M. umbellatum they will be sweet first then slightly sour. This is due to the presence of good amount of starch in the leaves. And Dr. Mali observed that the hornbills feed on the leaves (especially the midrib portion) as they are energetic. The leaves of M. umbellatum are offered as 'prasadam' (like tulsi in temples) to the devotees by a saint (Shri Narayana Guru) who lives on the holy hill of Tiruvannamalai. The local names Kaya, Kayambu, Kayampoo are denoting Lord Krishna due to the color of flowers.
 

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R. Vijayasankar
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The University of Mississippi, 
Oxford, MS-38677, USA.umbellatum

Satish Phadke

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Mar 11, 2013, 11:30:59 AM3/11/13
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I was believing that a large poulation what we see in Mahabaleshwar at many places is Memecylon umbellatum. Need to check carefully.
Dr Satish Phadke


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Mar 30, 2013, 9:19:45 AM3/30/13
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Some earlier relevant feedback:

 this is an email from Dr Santhosh Kumar

I think it is Memecylon edule not M. umbellatum
Santhosh
----------------------------
some information that I could glean from the net
and from indiantreepix
 
There are two ways to confirm the id:
1. If the inflorescence is more or less sessile (stalkless) and the fruits are ripening blue (pl check Mathew, 1983), then it is Memecylong umbellatum. In M. edule the umbels are long stalked and the fruits are yellowish.
2. When you taste the leaves of M. umbellatum they will be sweet first then slightly sour. This is due to the presence of good amount of starch in the leaves. And Dr. Mali observed that the hornbills feed on the leaves (especially the midrib portion) as they are energetic. The leaves of M. umbellatum are offered as 'prasadam' (like tulsi in temples) to the devotees by a saint (Shri Narayana Guru) who lives on the holy hill of Tiruvannamalai. The local names Kaya, Kayambu, Kayampoo are denoting Lord Krishna due to the color of flowers.
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With regards
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 I was believing that a large poulation what we see in Mahabaleshwar at many places is Memecylon umbellatum. Need to check carefully.

Dr Satish Phadke

 efi site link: Memecylon edule ?



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Some earlier relevant feedback:

this is an email from Dr Santhosh Kumar

I think it is Memecylon edule not M. umbellatum
Santhosh
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some information that I could glean from the net
and from indiantreepix
There are two ways to confirm the id:
1. If the inflorescence is more or less sessile (stalkless) and the fruits are ripening blue (pl check Mathew, 1983), then it is Memecylong umbellatum. In M. edule the umbels are long stalked and the fruits are yellowish.
2. When you taste the leaves of M. umbellatum they will be sweet first then slightly sour. This is due to the presence of good amount of starch in the leaves. And Dr. Mali observed that the hornbills feed on the leaves (especially the midrib portion) as they are energetic. The leaves of M. umbellatum are offered as 'prasadam' (like tulsi in temples) to the devotees by a saint (Shri Narayana Guru) who lives on the holy hill of Tiruvannamalai. The local names Kaya, Kayambu, Kayampoo are denoting Lord Krishna due to the color of flowers.
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I was believing that a large poulation what we see in Mahabaleshwar at many places is Memecylon umbellatum. Need to check carefully.

Dr Satish Phadke


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After years of looking at this species I have come to the conclusion
that M umbellatum and M edule are synonymous. The plant has some local
and seasonal variations. Fruit colour depends largely on the season of
ripening, and length of stalks varies from tree to tree even in a
localised area.

regards
Radha


On 07/04/2013, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
>
> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>
> this is an email from Dr Santhosh Kumar
> *I think it is Memecylon edule not M. umbellatum*

> Santhosh
> ----------------------------
> some information that I could glean from the net
> http://www.globinmed.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=79441:
> memecylon
> and from indiantreepix
> There are two ways to confirm the id:
> 1. If the inflorescence is more or less sessile (stalkless) and the fruits
> are ripening blue (pl check Mathew, 1983), then it is Memecylong
> umbellatum. *In M. edule the umbels are long stalked and the fruits are
> yellowish.*

> 2. When you taste the leaves of M. umbellatum they will be sweet first then
> slightly sour. This is due to the presence of good amount of starch in the
> leaves. And Dr. Mali observed that the hornbills feed on the leaves
> (especially the midrib portion) as they are energetic. The leaves of M.
> umbellatum are offered as 'prasadam' (like tulsi in temples) to the
> devotees by a saint (Shri Narayana Guru) who lives on the holy hill of
> Tiruvannamalai. The local names Kaya, Kayambu, Kayampoo are denoting Lord
> Krishna due to the color of flowers.
> --
> With regards
> R. Vijayasankar
>
> I was believing that a large poulation what we see in Mahabaleshwar at many
> places is *Memecylon umbellatum*. Need to check carefully.

> Dr Satish Phadke
>
>
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> Subject: [efloraofindia:149071] memecylon umbellatum
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> memecylon umbellatum, mahabaleshwar
> first week of march, 2013
> just starting to flower
> regards
> mohina macker
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Muthu Karthick

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Apr 8, 2013, 5:52:33 AM4/8/13
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Oh, Radha ji, are these not different species? 
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J.M. Garg

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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

this is an email from Dr Santhosh Kumar

I think it is Memecylon edule not M. umbellatum
Santhosh
----------------------------
some information that I could glean from the net
and from indiantreepix
There are two ways to confirm the id:
1. If the inflorescence is more or less sessile (stalkless) and the fruits are ripening blue (pl check Mathew, 1983), then it is Memecylong umbellatum. In M. edule the umbels are long stalked and the fruits are yellowish.
2. When you taste the leaves of M. umbellatum they will be sweet first then slightly sour. This is due to the presence of good amount of starch in the leaves. And Dr. Mali observed that the hornbills feed on the leaves (especially the midrib portion) as they are energetic. The leaves of M. umbellatum are offered as 'prasadam' (like tulsi in temples) to the devotees by a saint (Shri Narayana Guru) who lives on the holy hill of Tiruvannamalai. The local names Kaya, Kayambu, Kayampoo are denoting Lord Krishna due to the color of flowers.
--
With regards
R. Vijayasankar

I was believing that a large poulation what we see in Mahabaleshwar at many places is Memecylon umbellatum. Need to check carefully.

Dr Satish Phadke

efi site link: Memecylon edule ?

After years of looking at this species I have come to the conclusion that M umbellatum and M edule are synonymous. The plant has some local and seasonal variations. Fruit colour depends largely on the season of ripening, and length of stalks varies from tree to tree even in a localised area.
regards
Radha                                         

Oh, Radha ji, are these not different species?  
Muthu Karthick, N


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"memecylon grande" from Dr. A R Sivu.
 
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