Re: Plant for the identification - Arunachal Pradesh

[Saroj Kasaju]

Ardisia crispa (Thunb.) A.DC. ??

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

On Mon, Mar 17, 2025 at 12:27 AM Sonii, Ashish-K. <pushps...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Admin,

Please have a look on this shrub species, photos taken at 2000 msl. in Arunachal Pradesh.

P.S. pl. find the another two photographs in the replied section of this e-mail. 

Regards, 

Sonii, Ashish-K.
Project Investigator (PI) & Fern Curator
Department of Environment Forest and Climate Change, Arunachal Pradesh, India
Divisional Forest Office, Seppa - 790102, East Kameng, Arunachal Pradesh, India
Mob. 09528888807/06290763123

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Sonii ji

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From: Sonii, Ashish-K. <pushps...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2025 at 00:12
Subject: Plant for the identification - Arunachal Pradesh
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Cc: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>, Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>

Dear Admin,

Please have a look on this shrub species, photos taken at 2000 msl. in Arunachal Pradesh.

P.S. pl. find the another two photographs in the replied section of this e-mail. 

Regards, 

Sonii, Ashish-K.
Project Investigator (PI) & Fern Curator
Department of Environment Forest and Climate Change, Arunachal Pradesh, India
Divisional Forest Office, Seppa - 790102, East Kameng, Arunachal Pradesh, India
Mob. 09528888807/06290763123

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With regards,
J.M.Garg

[J.M. Garg]

After going through all the listed species as per https://efloraofindia.com/efi/ardisia/,  in POWO, GBIF and FoC, I found two options:
Ardisia crenata subsp. crenata: as per 
https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:77228360-1
http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200016755
http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=115071&flora_id=1
GBIF specimens (one, two)

And Ardisia polysticta subsp. polysticta (syn: Ardisia virens Kurz) as per
https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:77228179-1
GBIF specimens (one, two)

I would like to go for Ardisia crenata subsp. crenata

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With regards,
J.M.Garg

[J.M. Garg]

Missed A.virens link:

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With regards,
J.M.Garg

[J.M. Garg]

Missed A.virens FoC link:
http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200016817

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With regards,
J.M.Garg

[Saroj Kasaju]

Is this a cultivated sp. ? I could not find its distribution for Arunachal pradesh.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

There is a lot of confusion regarding many similar looking species.

I am going by  

https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:77228360-1

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With regards,
J.M.Garg

[Saroj Kasaju]

I did not find its distribution according to the POWO.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Sonii, Ashish-K.]

Have another two digital sheets here through this link (https://ivh.bsi.gov.in/phanerogams-general-collection/en?search_bar=Ardisia+crispa&selection=Scientific_Name), which are looking similar to same. 

Regards, 

Sonii, Ashish-K.
Project Investigator (PI) & Fern Curator
Department of Environment Forest and Climate Change, Arunachal Pradesh, India
Divisional Forest Office, Seppa - 790102, East Kameng, Arunachal Pradesh, India
Mob. 09528888807/06290763123

[J.M. Garg]

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From: Sonii, Ashish-K. <pushps...@gmail.com>

Date: Thu, 27 Mar, 2025, 11:18 pm
Subject: Re: Plant for the identification - Arunachal Pradesh
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

Thanks Garg jee - then definitely will have to examine these specimens. 

Regards, 

Sonii, Ashish-K.
Project Investigator (PI) & Fern Curator
Department of Environment Forest and Climate Change, Arunachal Pradesh, India
Divisional Forest Office, Seppa - 790102, East Kameng, Arunachal Pradesh, India
Mob. 09528888807/06290763123

On Thu, 27 Mar, 2025, 5:02 pm J.M. Garg, <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

[J.M. Garg]

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From: Sonii, Ashish-K. <pushps...@gmail.com>

Date: Thu, 27 Mar, 2025, 11:19 pm
Subject: Re: Plant for the identification - Arunachal Pradesh
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

Will check it also. 

Regards, 

Sonii, Ashish-K.
Project Investigator (PI) & Fern Curator
Department of Environment Forest and Climate Change, Arunachal Pradesh, India
Divisional Forest Office, Seppa - 790102, East Kameng, Arunachal Pradesh, India
Mob. 09528888807/06290763123

[J.M. Garg]

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From: Sonii, Ashish-K. <pushps...@gmail.com>

Date: Thu, 27 Mar, 2025, 11:27 pm
Subject: Re: Plant for the identification - Arunachal Pradesh
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>, Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>

Yes, I completely agree. There is often a lot of confusion when it comes to distinguishing between similar-looking species. Further examination and expert opinion are usually necessary to ensure accurate identification.

Thanking you,

Regards, 

Sonii, Ashish-K.
Project Investigator (PI) & Fern Curator
Department of Environment Forest and Climate Change, Arunachal Pradesh, India
Divisional Forest Office, Seppa - 790102, East Kameng, Arunachal Pradesh, India
Mob. 09528888807/06290763123

[J.M. Garg]

BSI Flora of India gives its distribution in Arunachal Pradesh as per details given at 

https://efloraofindia.com/efi/ardisia/

POWO also gives its distribution in the surrounding areas including Assam, Mynamar etc. 

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With regards,
J.M.Garg

[Sonii, Ashish-K.]

Okay Garg jee, thanks for the information. 

Regards, 

Sonii, Ashish-K.
Project Investigator (PI) & Fern Curator
Department of Environment Forest and Climate Change, Arunachal Pradesh, India
Divisional Forest Office, Seppa - 790102, East Kameng, Arunachal Pradesh, India
Mob. 09528888807/06290763123