Fwd: Tamil name of Ipomoea eriocarpa R.Br.

[Dinesh Valke]

Many many thanks, Vijayasankar ji for the kind words and appreciation.

Will shortly add the Tamil name to the blog.

Regards.

Dinesh

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From: Vijayasankar Raman <vijay.b...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, May 3, 2023 at 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: Tamil name of Ipomoea eriocarpa R.Br.
To: Dinesh Valke <dinesh...@gmail.com>

Thanks Dinesh ji. I am happy to help. 

Hats off to you for working on this herculean task. Resolving a single name for a single species makes me dizzy; I always wonder how you are able to do this involving numerous names in multiple languages and still maintain your cool as if nothing is happening :)

Best regards,

Vijayasankar

On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 10:52 PM Dinesh Valke <dinesh...@gmail.com> wrote:

I fully agree with you in this case.

It is always better to coin a simple convincing name rather than having to prove the meaning of the coined-name.

I will go with சிறு காக்கட்டான் ciru kakkattan = tiny morning glory.

Thank you very much, Vijayasankar ji.

Regards.

Dinesh

On Wed, 3 May 2023, 01:19 Vijayasankar Raman, <vijay.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Dinesh ji, 

I don't see a point in giving a name based on just one another language name, especially in this case, as different vernacular names have different meanings. 

The Tamil translation for "tiny morning glory" would be சிறு காக்கட்டான் (Ciṟu kākkaṭṭāṉ), using which I think is a safer option.

Best,

Vijayasankar

On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 12:05 AM Dinesh Valke <dinesh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks Vijayasankar ji.

I took a keen look at the leaves of this plant. Frankly, they do not look like tiger's ears. Perhaps it is the flower that alludes to the tiger's ear.

I will skip the part of reasoning out the meaning of புலிச்செவி pulichevi - will simply state that the name is based on Malayalam name - പുലിചെവിട് pulichevidu

What do you think?

Regards.

Dinesh

On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 1:07 AM Vijayasankar Raman <vijay.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

It makes sense now because in Tamil, chevi (= kaadhu) means ear, but chevidu means deaf, as I mentioned earlier.

So, if the leaf indeed resembles a tiger's ear, then the Tamil name could be something like pulichevi புலிச்செவி or pulikaadhu புலிக்காது. 

Best,

Vijayasankar

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Vijayasankar Raman, Ph.D.
Sr. Research Scientist
University of Mississippi, USA

On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 1:07 PM Dinesh Valke <dinesh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks very much, Vijayasankar ji for the clarification. Yes, today, I found the name is in Malayalam. Puli = tiger; chevidu = ear (lobe) ... the plant leaf alludes to a tiger's ear ... that is best possible reasoning 😀 

As of now, let us remain without coining any name OR think of coining a name on lines of "tiny morning glory". 

Regards.

Dinesh

On Mon, 1 May 2023, 22:46 Vijayasankar Raman, <vijay.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Dinesh ji,

The name pulichevidu is a Malayalam name as per eFloraKerala.com http://keralaplants.in/keralaplantsdetails.aspx?id=Ipomoea_eriocarpa

Puli means tiger and chevidu is deaf. I am not sure how this name is relevant to I. eriocarpa. 

However, the Tamil name pulichuvadu (tiger's paw print) is applied to I. pes-tigridis due to its leaf shape)

Vijayasankar

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Vijayasankar Raman, Ph.D.
Sr. Research Scientist
University of Mississippi, USA

On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 5:04 AM Dinesh Valke <dinesh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Vijayasankar ji,

Please help me with the Tamil name pulichevidu in native script, if it is a valid name.

Reference: ENVIS / FRLHT