Flower ID request - RK1 - 10-Oct-2012

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Rashmi Khiani

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Oct 10, 2012, 12:24:20 PM10/10/12
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Hello all,
 
I would like to know the identification of this herb clicked in Karjat area. I hope I am abiding by the rules of this group, please correct me in case of mistakes.

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Kind regards, Rashmi
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Neil Soares

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Oct 10, 2012, 12:56:33 PM10/10/12
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Hi,
 This is Sida retusa. Please check the archives of this group for my photographs of this.
                         With regards,
                           Neil Soares. 


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Rashmi Khiani

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Oct 11, 2012, 2:23:15 AM10/11/12
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Dear Neil ji,

Thanks a lot for the quick identification. I checked the archives and
found one thread with your photos of this plant and it looks
identical.

But I am slightly confused because I got a private reply from Mr P. K.
Sujith (pasted below) and he identified the first photo as Sida acuta
and the last photo as Sida rhombifolia. I am sure that all the photos
I have clicked are of one plant only.

Thanks also to Dinesh ji for your response.


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: sujith p.k <pksuji...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 6:39 AM
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:134627] Flower ID request - RK1 - 10-Oct-2012
To: Rashmi Khiani <rashmi...@gmail.com>


[image: rk_for-id_001_1.jpg]



I think it is Sida acuta


[image: rk_for-id_001_5.jpg]

I think it is Sida rhombifolia
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Nidhan Singh

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Oct 11, 2012, 2:57:00 AM10/11/12
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I am also of the opinion that all pics do not belong to same plant they of course have resemblance...but the first image rk_for-id_001_1.jpg and third picture rk_for-id_001_3.jpg are of same plant, rest are distinct..


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Dr. Nidhan Singh
Assisstant Professor
Department of Botany
I.B. (PG) College
Panipat-132103 Haryana
Ph.: 09416371227

Vijayasankar

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Oct 11, 2012, 10:42:42 AM10/11/12
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I agree with Neil ji's id: Sida retusa (the accepted name, however, is Sida alnifolia). As assured by Rashmi ji, I think all the pictures are of the same plant, too (due to similar stem color, indumentum, and the lower typically-retuse leaves can be seen in the backdrop of the first picture). A picture of whole plant may be helpful.

It is not uncommon to see variations in leaf shape and size even in the same plant here. The upper younger leaves usually narrower with pointed tips whereas the lower leaves characteristically broad and wedge-shaped or triangular with retuse / notched tip. This is clearly seen in one of Dinesh ji's pics: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/7980262837/ Pl also see: https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups=#!topic/indiantreepix/fqs48KRMsU4
 
Regards 
 
Vijayasankar Raman
National Center for Natural Products Research
University of Mississippi



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Satish Phadke

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Oct 11, 2012, 11:13:44 AM10/11/12
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Rashmi ji
Many thanks for posting this interesting plant. This is the beauty of the group. If there is one reply there might be another with reasoning to it ultimately helping the ID of plants where often the flower looks same in  a genus but species may be different. The leaves are characteristic here which helps in ID.
Dr Satish Phadke



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Rashmi Khiani

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Oct 12, 2012, 4:18:51 AM10/12/12
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Thanks a million Nidhan ji & Vijayasankar ji for your responses. I'm
certain that the photographs are from one plant only. Thanks again for
your explanation about the varitiaon in leaf shape. I have attached
one more photo where both kinds of leaves are seen.
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rk_for-id_001_6.jpg

Rashmi Khiani

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Oct 12, 2012, 4:19:47 AM10/12/12
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Thank you Satish ji. I agree this is an amazing group for nature lovers.
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Vijayasankar

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Oct 12, 2012, 7:23:46 AM10/12/12
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Thanks Rashmi ji for sharing yet another 'character photograph'! It speaks for itself...

 
Regards 
 
Vijayasankar Raman
National Center for Natural Products Research
University of Mississippi




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Neil Soares

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Oct 12, 2012, 2:01:29 PM10/12/12
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Hi,
 Sending one more photograph of mine.
                  With regards,
                    Neil Soares.


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From: Rashmi Khiani <rashmi...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:134707] Flower ID request - RK1 - 10-Oct-2012
To: "Vijayasankar" <vijay.b...@gmail.com>
Cc: "Nidhan Singh" <nidhans...@gmail.com>, "Neil Soares" <drneil...@yahoo.com>, pksuji...@gmail.com, dinesh...@gmail.com, indian...@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, October 12, 2012, 1:48 PM

Thanks a million Nidhan ji & Vijayasankar ji for your responses. I'm
certain that the photographs are from one plant only. Thanks again for
your explanation about the varitiaon in leaf shape. I have attached
one more photo where both kinds of leaves are seen.

On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Vijayasankar <vijay.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I agree with Neil ji's id: Sida retusa (the accepted name, however, is Sida alnifolia). As assured by Rashmi ji, I think all the pictures are of the same plant, too (due to similar stem color, indumentum, and the lower typically-retuse leaves can be seen in the backdrop of the first picture). A picture of whole plant may be helpful.
>
> It is not uncommon to see variations in leaf shape and size even in the same plant here. The upper younger leaves usually narrower with pointed tips whereas the lower leaves characteristically broad and wedge-shaped or triangular with retuse / notched tip. This is clearly seen in one of Dinesh ji's pics: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/7980262837/ Pl also see: https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups=#!topic/indiantreepix/fqs48KRMsU4
>
> Regards
>
> Vijayasankar Raman
> National Center for Natural Products Research
> University of Mississippi
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:57 AM, Nidhan Singh <nidhans...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I am also of the opinion that all pics do not belong to same plant they of course have resemblance...but the first image rk_for-id_001_1.jpg and third picture rk_for-id_001_3.jpg are of same plant, rest are distinct..
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Dr. Nidhan Singh
>> Assisstant Professor
>> Department of Botany
>> I.B. (PG) College
>> Panipat-132103 Haryana
>> Ph.: 09416371227
>>
Sida retusa.jpg

Rashmi Khiani

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Oct 12, 2012, 11:52:01 PM10/12/12
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Thanks again Neil ji, this is really a very interesting plant.
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