Convolvulaceae for id 181010MK3

[Muthu Karthick]

Dear all,

Please help to id this Argeryia species. First I thought this is the same as Dineshji's A. sericea; but looks different. Kindly comment. 

Picture taken at Kuttupatti, a valley in off-shoot of southern western ghats.

Date/Time-	12-09-2010 / 03:00 PM
Location- Place, Altitude, GP	ca.400 asl; Dindigul dist; TN
Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-	wild
Plant Habit-	climbing shrub
Height/Length-
Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size-	ca.7 X 5cm; retuse tip
Inflorescence Type/ Size-
Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-	ca.3cm across
Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds-	2cm across;
Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.-

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[Muthu Karthick]

[Balkar Arya]

A. nervosa
called as Samudra Sokh in our area


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[Dinesh Valke]

... may be another species of Argyreia ... for A. nervosa, the unmistakable fluffy white (bracts or) calyx is missing ... http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/2852873593/
Regards.

[Balkar Arya]

You are right Dinesh Ji
another option is A hookeri

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

“A. nervosa

called as Samudra Sokh in our area

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Dr Balkar Singh”

 

“... may be another species of Argyreia... for A. nervosa, the unmistakable fluffy white (bracts or) calyx is missing ... http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/2852873593/”

 

“You are right Dinesh Ji
another option is A hookeri” from Balkar ji.

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

“A. nervosa

called as Samudra Sokh in our area

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Regards

Dr Balkar Singh”

 

“... may be another species of Argyreia... for A. nervosa, the unmistakable fluffy white (bracts or) calyx is missing ... http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/2852873593/”

 

“You are right Dinesh Ji
another option is A hookeri” from Balkar ji.

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[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
Some earlier relevant feedback:
“A. nervosa

called as Samudra Sokh in our area
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Regards
Dr Balkar Singh”
 
“... may be another species of Argyreia... for A. nervosa, the unmistakable fluffy white (bracts or) calyx is missing ... http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/2852873593/”
 
“You are right Dinesh Ji
another option is A hookeri” from Balkar ji.

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Date: 18 October 2010 12:05

Subject: [efloraofindia:51131] Convolvulaceae for id 181010MK3
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[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

“A. nervosa

called as Samudra Sokh in our area

-- 
Regards

Dr Balkar Singh”

 

“... may be another species of Argyreia... for A. nervosa, the unmistakable fluffy white (bracts or) calyx is missing ... http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/2852873593/”

 

“You are right Dinesh Ji
another option is A hookeri” from Balkar ji.

-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Seeking opinion

earlier suggestion by Balkar ji Argyreia hookeri

Gurcharan Singh

[J.M. Garg]

To me it appears closer to Argyreia hirsuta Wight & Arn. as per comparative images at  ‎Argyreia

Images of Argyreia hookeri at look different:

http://www.biol.uni.wroc.pl/cassidae/katalog%20internetowy/argyreia%20hookeri.htm

http://www.biol.uni.wroc.pl/cassidae/katalog%20internetowy/Photos/Argyreia%20hookeri.jpg

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks a lot, Shimpale ji.

Than the images by Muthu ji at Argyreia for identification 050813MK01 will also be of Argyreia pilosa. Pl. confirm.

Also the images by Anurag ji at ANMAR27/47 Convolvulaceae for identification will be of some other species ? Pl. correct.

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Date: 17 October 2016 at 12:44
Subject: Re: Fwd: [efloraofindia:253350] Convolvulaceae for id 181010MK3
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It Argyreia pilosa.

 

Dr. Vinod B. Shimpale M.Sc. Ph.D. Assistant Professor, Department of Botany, The New College, Kolhapur 416 012, Maharashtra, India

[J.M. Garg]

Posted images seems to match with type images of Argyreia pilosa at http://convolvulaceae.myspecies.info/content/argyreia-pilosa-6 as identified by Vinod Simpale ji.

But type image given in GBIF at http://www.ville-ge.ch/imagezoom/?fif=cjbiip/cjb5/img_19/GDC018005_1.ptif&cvt=jpeg & at http://convolvulaceae.myspecies.info/content/argyreia-pilosa-0 looks different.

May I request someone to help in this matter. 

[lalithamba]

It is not Argyreia pilosa; reasons the young stems/ branchlets are not reddish hirsute; leaf apex is not acute;  flowers not in capitate heads etc.,

thank you

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[J.M. Garg]

To me appears more closer to images at Argyreia hirsuta Wight & Arn. as per comparative images at Argyreia‎

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Lalithamba ji.

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Yes it appears close to Argyeia hirsuta; sepals should be ovate 

thank you

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A.Lalithamba

[J.M. Garg]

I think it may be Argyreia pilosa as per images herein and as per discussions another thread. 

Also does not match with high resolution specimen of Argyreia hirsuta at the following:

http://mediaphoto.mnhn.fr/media/1442808598414HRWNqNmphOi4D1yi

https://www.kew.org/herbcatimg/412413.jpg

http://repo.rbge.org.uk/image_server.php?kind=1500&path_base64=L2hlcmJhcml1bV9zcGVjaW1lbl9zY2Fucy9FMDAvMTc0Lzg3Ni8zMTU1MC5qcGc=

https://www.gbif.org/species/3678879

[J.M. Garg]

On further examination, I feel it is more closer to Argyreia pomacea Choisy as per high resolution specimens at GBIF

https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fmedialib.naturalis.nl%2Ffile%2Fid%2FL.2731768%2Fformat%2Flarge

https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kew.org%2Fherbcatimg%2F412033.jpg

https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fcollections.nmnh.si.edu%2Fmedia%2Findex.php%3Firn%3D13420196

https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fcollections.nmnh.si.edu%2Fmedia%2Findex.php%3Firn%3D13410439

https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fcollections.nmnh.si.edu%2Fmedia%2Findex.php%3Firn%3D13404190

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