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Saroj Kasaju

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Jan 28, 2021, 5:00:57 AM1/28/21
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Dear Members,

Location: Chandragiri
Date: November 2020
Altitude: 2400m.
Habitat : Wild 
Fabaceae .....???

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Jan 28, 2021, 5:01:50 AM1/28/21
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Jan 28, 2021, 5:01:53 AM1/28/21
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Jan 28, 2021, 5:02:50 AM1/28/21
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Jan 28, 2021, 5:04:55 AM1/28/21
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Jan 28, 2021, 5:05:34 AM1/28/21
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Jan 28, 2021, 5:06:19 AM1/28/21
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Nidhan Singh

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Jan 29, 2021, 3:00:44 AM1/29/21
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I hope it has to be some Astragalus..

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Saroj Kasaju

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Jan 29, 2021, 5:16:13 AM1/29/21
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Thank you Nidhan sir !

Astragalus chlorostachys Lindl.

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Saroj Kasaju

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Feb 4, 2021, 3:39:11 AM2/4/21
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Is ID ok ?

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J.M. Garg

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Feb 11, 2021, 3:18:43 AM2/11/21
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Also check Astragalus himalayanus also 
Keys in Flora of Pakistan are based on the shape of Calyx teeth. Calyx teeth not triangular (deltoid) in A. himalyanus. 
Calyx teeth shorter than the cup (cup c. 3 mm, teeth c. 1-2 mm) in Astragalus himalayanus Klotzsch in Klotzsch and Garckc as per keys and Calyx c. 3-4.5 mm long, pubescent, hairs black and white, teeth c. 1-1.5 mm long as per description. 
Calyx 4-6.5 mm, densely covered with appressed to as­cending, dark brown and white hairs; teeth mostly unequal, tri­angular, 0.5-1.5 mm, sometimes indistinct as per description in Astragalus chlorostachys Lindley
Also check their detailed descriptions. 
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Saroj Kasaju

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Feb 11, 2021, 4:09:20 AM2/11/21
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Two sp., Astragalus stipulatus D. Don and Astragalus khasianus Benth. ex Bunge are found 
listed in the book Flora of Kathmandu Valley, however I could not find the distribution for
Astragalus khasianus Benth. ex Bunge for Nepal and legumes also does not look like
matching. Astragalus stipulatus D. Don looks to be  completely different.
Astragalus himalayanus Klotzsch is found above 3200m only though FOI has mentioned 
the lower limit as 2400m. Do you think Mr. Garg, that legume shape matches with the Herbarium?

I may need to visit the location during flowering season.

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J.M. Garg

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Feb 16, 2021, 5:57:06 AM2/16/21
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I think it is a very very complex genus and expert help is required along with the literature.
So, in the current scenario, we have to go by what the books say.
To me it appears close to Astragalus khasianus Bunge as per description and illustration in Flora of China and as per GBIF- specimen 1, specimen 2 
rather than Astragalus stipulatus D. Don as per description and illustration in Flora of China and as per GBIF- specimen 1, specimen 2 and specimen 3


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Saroj Kasaju

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Feb 16, 2021, 8:56:59 AM2/16/21
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I also feel now but not recorded in Nepal except for the FoKV book.
Not even mentioned in the book  recently published by Departrment
of Plant Resources, Govt. of Nepal.
I may have to check during the flowering season.
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J.M. Garg

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Feb 24, 2021, 7:48:12 AM2/24/21
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Reply from Sanjappa ji:
"Dear Saroj
It is Astragalus chlorostachys Lindl. based whatever character I could decipher from photos
with best wishes
M.Sanjappa, Ph.D., FNA, FASc, FNASc 
Former Director, BSI; CSIR Emeritus Scientist; INSA Senior Scientist 
Mahatma Gandhi Botanical Garden 
University of Agricultural Sciences 
GKVK, Bengaluru 560 065 "
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Feb 24, 2021, 7:49:23 AM2/24/21
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Reply from Sanjappa ji at Astragalus:
"Dear Saroj
It is Astragalus chlorostachys Lindl. based whatever character I could decipher from photos
with best wishes
M.Sanjappa, Ph.D., FNA, FASc, FNASc 
Former Director, BSI; CSIR Emeritus Scientist; INSA Senior Scientist 
Mahatma Gandhi Botanical Garden 
University of Agricultural Sciences 
GKVK, Bengaluru 560 065 "
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J.M. Garg

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Feb 27, 2021, 6:15:58 AM2/27/21
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I am doubtful after checking the calyx at Astragalus chlorostachys
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J.M. Garg

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Feb 27, 2021, 7:10:38 AM2/27/21
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Or maybe he is right. 
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Saroj Kasaju

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Feb 27, 2021, 7:12:19 AM2/27/21
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Ok Mr. Garg.
I shall try to follow up with flowers .
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Saroj Kasaju
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