HP, August 2022 :: Cirsium wallichi for validation :: ARK2022-193

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Alka Khare

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Nov 3, 2022, 4:53:44 AM11/3/22
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Hello friends

This was at Solang near Manali, Himachal Pradesh in August 2022.

Cirsium wallichi

Requested to please validate.

Thanks and regards
Alka Khare
Cirsium wallichi_Manali Solang1.JPG
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Saroj Kasaju

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Nov 3, 2022, 4:56:14 AM11/3/22
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I guess the  ID is correct !
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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J.M. Garg

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Nov 3, 2022, 5:51:21 AM11/3/22
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No.
This is Cirsium wallichii DC. (a highly variable species).
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Saroj Kasaju

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Nov 3, 2022, 5:52:35 AM11/3/22
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She suggested C. wallichii !
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Nov 3, 2022, 6:07:48 AM11/3/22
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OK. Then correct id.
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Saroj Kasaju

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Nov 3, 2022, 6:34:16 AM11/3/22
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Thank you Mr. Garg !

Saroj Kasaju

Gurcharan Singh

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Nov 14, 2022, 12:33:57 PM11/14/22
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Although there is lot of variation in both C. wallichii (heads less than 4 cm across, inner involucre bracts distinctly dilated) and C. falconeri (heads 6-8 cm across, inner involucre bracrs spiny tipped) the two diagnostic characters can't be ignored. To me it looks C. falconeri only.

J.M. Garg

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Nov 14, 2022, 7:47:06 PM11/14/22
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I do not think so.
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