AR13,2010 Capparis sp.

[Anantanarayan Rajaram]

Date/Time- latter half of the year Location- Place, Altitude, GPS- Nanmangalam reserve forest-dry,evergreen ,thorn - near Chennai city Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type- wild Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-  shrub Height/Length- 4-5 ft Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size- Inflorescence Type/ Size- about 7cm width total Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts- Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- fruits 4-6 cm and more when split open. Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.- From Flowers of India.net the flower seems to fit the description for Capparis rheedi but it is mentioned there that C. rheedi is endemic to Western Ghats.  The fruit is as shown and birds were found to feed on it ( tastes sweet like custard apple and packing is similar). Experts' comments sought. Thanks

[Dinesh Valke]

.... most probably Capparis rheedii
Regards.

[tanay bose]

Capparis rheedi or commonly Rheed's Capper

Tanay

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[shrikant ingalhalikar]

C. rheedei is a plant of evergreen forest. Flowers axillary, thorns
straight, upper petals with a yellow/purple blotch is C. brevispina
DC. I am seeing pictures for the first time. Regards, Shrikant

On Oct 19, 4:49 pm, Anantanarayan Rajaram <rajaram_an...@yahoo.com>
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[Satish Phadke]

Excellent flowers of Capparaceae family.
Not seen by me earlier.

[J.M. Garg]

A reply in another mail:

"I just glanced through the message posted by Dr. Rajaraman on Capparis sps.   It has been identified by many members of the group as C.rheedii and supposed to be endemic to western ghats.     If this plant is endemic to the w.ghats it should have been included in the Gamble Flora of Madras Presidency, which includes plants from Western ghats as well,  either in the same name or as a synonym.  But I donot find any such plant name  in the Gamble flora.  Furthermore, the experts who have identified it as C.rheedii have not given the synonyms,  not found even in the flowers of India.    The limited descriptions provided by Dr Rajaraman, when checked,  roughly tallies  with Capparis  brevispina described in Gamble flora.  But this is not a confirmation as the full description of the plant is not available.
Looking forward for further comments by the experts as to   (a) why C.rheedii is not mentioned in the Gamble flora  or   (b) Whether C. brevispina has been identified as C.rheedii or  (c) C.rheedii is a new inlcusion to Capparis group
Dr. Mahadeswara swamy"

On 19 October 2010 17:19, Anantanarayan Rajaram <rajara...@yahoo.com> wrote:

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[Anantanarayan Rajaram]

Dear all, I am forwarding the last mail I received from Dr. M. Swamy on the Capparis sp. From the details given it seems to fit Capparis brevispina with the obvious feature being large fruit size  : I am providing the  data available in Gamble flora , vol. 1 pp31 and 32.                                                  key Mature branches leafless: - thorns straight; flowers under 1 in. across, red, fruit globose red.................................................................aphylla Mature branches leafy:- Flowers solitary or nearly so:-         Ovary glabrous, grooved, flowers 2.5 - 3 in, across:-                   Thorns hooked , leaves pubescent beneath; flowers white;                     fruit slightly granular, ablong ..........................grandiflora.                    Thorns straight; leaves glabrous;flowers red;                     fruit rugose,  globular......................................stylosa.          Ovary tomentose, flowers white tinged with yellow:-                     flowers  1.5 to- 2 in. across:-                          Pedicel not less than 1/2 the gynophore :-                             Berry ovoid; leaves 1.5 - 2.5in. long.......brevispina                                 Berry fusiform , narrowed into the gynophore;                              leaves 3-5 in. long....................................fusifera                           Pedicels 5 times shorter than the gynophore;                              Berry   .7 in. across, black ......................alacifolia            Flowers 4-5 in across; thorns minute or 0................heyneana Flowers in racemes, umbels , corymbs or panicles:-                key provided for 11 species.  I am not typing the details as they are not relevant for the present species. C.brevispina :-   Dry forest  tracts of N.Circars, Nellore, Salem and Tinnevelly , usual near the coast. A handsome  shrub with conspicuous flowers I hope the details are sufficient. Best regards, M.Swamy. --- On Tue, 19/10/10, shrikant ingalhalikar <le...@rediffmail.com> wrote:

[Dinesh Valke]

Many thanks Anantanarayan ji for resolving the ID.

Regards.

[shrikant ingalhalikar]

Dear Dr. M. Swamy,
I had on 19 Oct identified this plant as C. brevispina from key
features given in BSI Maharashtra Flora and had differed from C.
rheedii which I am quite familiar with in W. ghats. Thanks for the
distribution details that confirm this as C. brevispina. Regards,
Shrikant

On Oct 28, 1:00 pm, Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Many thanks Anantanarayan ji for resolving the ID.
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> Regards.
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> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Anantanarayan Rajaram <
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> rajaram_an...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Dear all,
> > I am forwarding the last mail I received from Dr. M. Swamy on the Capparis
> > sp. From the details given it seems to fit Capparis brevispina with the
> > obvious feature being large fruit size

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> > --- On *Tue, 19/10/10, shrikant ingalhalikar <le...@rediffmail.com>*wrote:

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> > From: shrikant ingalhalikar <le...@rediffmail.com>
> > Subject: [efloraofindia:51264] Re: AR13,2010 Capparis sp.
> > To: "efloraofindia" <indian...@googlegroups.com>
> > Date: Tuesday, 19 October, 2010, 8:32 PM
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> > C. rheedei is a plant of evergreen forest. Flowers axillary, thorns
> > straight, upper petals with a yellow/purple blotch is C. brevispina
> > DC. I am seeing pictures for the first time. Regards, Shrikant
>

> > On Oct 19, 4:49 pm, Anantanarayan Rajaram <rajaram_an...@yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=rajaram_an...@yahoo.com>

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[Saroj Kumar Kasaju]

This has already been listed as C. brevispina in efi.

Need to be removed from UN ID list.

Thank  you

Saroj Kasaju