Identity of this anual please?

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Yazdy Palia

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Jul 14, 2010, 7:23:11 AM7/14/10
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Dear friends,
The flower copied here is that of an anual that in our area is known
to appear before Onam. In common parlance some locals call it onam
flower.
Coudl someone identify it please?
Date & Time 14 July 2010
Location: Place, Altitude, GPS Chethalayam, Wayanad, Kerala.
Wild
Plant Habit: Tree, Shrub, Climber, Herb Annual
Height, Length.
Leaves Type, Shape, Size
Inflorescence Type Size
Flowers Size Colour Calyx Bracts-
Fruits Type, Shape, Size Seeds
Other Information like Frangrance, Pollinator, Uses.
Regards
Yazdy.

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mani nair

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Jul 14, 2010, 7:27:52 AM7/14/10
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Yazdy ji, this is Glory Lily (Gloriosa superba)  In Mumbai also this flower blooms during August.

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Mani.

ajinkya gadave

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Jul 14, 2010, 8:22:46 AM7/14/10
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yes this is Gloriosa superba.

promila chaturvedi

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Jul 14, 2010, 8:32:44 AM7/14/10
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I agree with others. It is Gloriosa superba.
Promila

tanay bose

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Jul 14, 2010, 8:35:55 AM7/14/10
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Gloriosa superba indeed
it has medicinal usage
but extremely toxic due as it contains Colchicine (root has highest concentration)
it stops mitotic cell division by dislocating spindle fibers

more about colchicine from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colchicine

Tanay


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Joshi Pankaj

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Jul 14, 2010, 8:49:51 AM7/14/10
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Gloriosa superba - a member of Liliaceae
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ajinkya gadave

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Jul 14, 2010, 9:00:18 AM7/14/10
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This is from me
Gloriosa superba.jpg

Gurcharan Singh

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Jul 14, 2010, 9:09:17 AM7/14/10
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Another very nice photograph of Glory lily. Thanks Ajinkya ji.


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tanay bose

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Jul 14, 2010, 9:18:08 AM7/14/10
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Spectacular photo!!
Thanks for sharing
tanay

Farida Abraham

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Jul 14, 2010, 9:50:21 AM7/14/10
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i have been trying to grow it for several years in Lucknow. i get the rhizome?? like structure for planting from Kolkata - a few leaves come up and then it dies. Any suggestions.??? would love to have it flower here. Farida Abraham
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Pankaj Kumar

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Jul 14, 2010, 11:36:29 AM7/14/10
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Nice pictures. In Jharkhand they called it AGNISIKHA, as it looks like
fire on tip....so they have themyth that if they plant this herb in
and around their house then it can hamper the normal social life of
house. Relationships will kind of catch fire...basically relationship
wont last for long....
Regards
Pankaj

mani nair

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Jul 14, 2010, 12:14:48 PM7/14/10
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I also tried growing it, but the plant did not flower.   I think the rizome was immature.

Mani.

Pankaj Kumar

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Jul 14, 2010, 12:26:38 PM7/14/10
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Forgot to inform, the roots of this plant has mitotic poison!!
Regards
Pankaj

Yazdy Palia

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Jul 14, 2010, 12:28:57 PM7/14/10
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Hi Farida,
This thing flowers only during July August. If you can get a rhizome
immediately after the plant has dried up, you store it in a cool dry
place for a year and plant it in June, you may get the flowers. This
is just my logic. I do not know if it will work. In any case, I will
mark the plant and try it once it is dry.
Regards
Yazdy.

mani nair

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Jul 14, 2010, 12:42:12 PM7/14/10
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One more info - this plant is becoming an endangered species because of over collection for medicine by tribals.

Regards,

Mani.

Padmini Raghavan

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Jul 14, 2010, 1:13:07 PM7/14/10
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It is the state flower of Tamil Nadu.
A spray, cut and placed in a vase, lasts for days.
Padmini Raghavan.

Pankaj Oudhia

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Jul 14, 2010, 3:01:41 PM7/14/10
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Dr. Arvind Kadus

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Jul 14, 2010, 11:16:03 PM7/14/10
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Hi! Dear freinds,
This 'Kal lavi' plant i.e. Gloriosa superba is mentioned in
Ayurveda.It is used to induce the dilivery or for the abortions. The
slice of the rhizome is to be put on the abdomen and then it gives
rise to Contractions, in Marathi thats why this plant is called as Kal
Lavi. This plant is poisonous and having Colchicin. In South India
cultivation of this plant is taken in large scale for the Colchicin.
It is used in biotechnology feild to enlarge the size of vegetables.
More information is that the natural pollination is not possible, so
artificial pollination should be carried out for the fertilisation.
Thanks.
Regards,
Dr. Arvind Kadus.Pune.

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> Once official flower of Sri Lanka's Tamil Tiger Rebels.
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> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3631793.stm
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> Link of my recent work on Gloriosa
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> http://www.google.com/#hl=en&safe=off&q=+site%3Awww.pankajoudhia.com+...
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> regards
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> Pankaj Oudhia
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> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Yazdy Palia <yazdypa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Dear friends,
> > The flower copied here is that of an anual that in our area is known
> > to appear before Onam. In common parlance some locals call it onam
> > flower.
> > Coudl someone identify it please?
> > Date & Time     14 July 2010
> > Location: Place, Altitude, GPS  Chethalayam, Wayanad, Kerala.
> >        Wild
> > Plant Habit: Tree, Shrub, Climber, Herb Annual
> > Height, Length.
> > Leaves Type, Shape, Size
> > Inflorescence Type Size
> > Flowers Size Colour Calyx Bracts-
> > Fruits Type, Shape, Size Seeds
> > Other Information like Frangrance, Pollinator, Uses.
> > Regards
> > Yazdy.
>
> > You have been sent 2 pictures.
>
> > DSCN3163.JPG
> > DSCN3164.JPG
>
> > These pictures were sent with Picasa, from Google.
> > Try it out here:http://picasa.google.com/- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

nivi tha

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Jul 15, 2010, 12:39:28 AM7/15/10
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Glorisa superba- state flower of Tamil Nadu And National flower of Zimbawae
--
Selvalakshmi S.
Doctoral Scholar,
Bharathiar University,
Coimbatore,
Tamil NAdu

tanay bose

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Jul 15, 2010, 12:45:23 AM7/15/10
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Thanks for the info Selvalakshmi
Tanay

mani nair

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Jul 15, 2010, 12:46:52 AM7/15/10
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Dear friends,

Is  this plant for sale in any nurseries in and around Mumbai?

Please let me know.

Regards,

Mani.

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Pankaj Oudhia

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Jul 15, 2010, 4:09:46 AM7/15/10
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In my state, one of the local names of Gloriosa is Jhagadhin means Jhagda karane vala. It is old saying that presence of this plant in home garden results in family dispute.

One can consider it as blind faith but our forefathers were not fool. There must be some logic in it. We must try to search scientifc reason behind this saying.

As you know, it is very toxic plant and it must be kept far from approach of children and pet. This may be the reason our forefathers have associated this fear with this herb. Natives are still following this instruction sincerely.

I have written on it in Hindi blog. Please visit

http://aarambha.blogspot.com/2007/12/chhattisgarh-1.html

regards

Pankaj Oudhia
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