SK425 15MAR-2017:ID

[Saroj Kasaju]

Dear Members,

Location: Phukhet, Thailand

Date: 22 May 2016

Altitude: 1200 ft.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

Wild or cultivated? 

[Saroj Kasaju]

It is wild. 

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

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Thanks, Pascal ji.

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From: Pascal Bruggeman <>
Date: 27 March 2017 at 15:27
Subject: Re: SK425 15MAR-2017:ID
To: "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>

Typhonium, possibly T. roxburghii or related (the yellow appendix is a bit odd though).

 

Pascal

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

It is wild.  Thank you. Saroj Kasaju

Typhonium, possibly T. roxburghii or related (the yellow appendix is a bit odd though). Pascal

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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: 15 March 2017 at 15:43
Subject: SK425 15MAR-2017:ID

To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>, "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Did not find any image with yellow spadix.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Saroj Kasaju]

https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/Pj7RERTBCoM/m/oUZ0acLqAwAJ

Could it be Typhonium smitinandii Sookch. & J.Murata, endemic to Thailand ?

https://www.google.com/imgres?q=Typhonium%20smitinandii%C2%A0&imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fimage.makewebcdn.com%2Fmakeweb%2Fm_1920x0%2FhwzG1gPrY%2FDefaultData%2FTyphonium_smitinandii_2_400x500.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.adiantumtime.com%2Fproduct%2F219681-216731%2Ftyphonium-smitinandii&docid=XyyLNoDrYEg1uM&tbnid=EO9XaG9tfP1VFM&vet=12ahUKEwii0JOauI2JAxWxd2wGHeJ3MBQQM3oECB0QAA..i&w=400&h=500&hcb=2&ved=2ahUKEwii0JOauI2JAxWxd2wGHeJ3MBQQM3oECB0QAA

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Pascal Bruggeman]

Possibly. But without details of the inner parts (the true flowers) it is not possible to fully confirm. The shape and position of the staminodes etc. are unique for each species so with Araceae it is often helpful, or even vital, for a ID to cut the spathe open to reveal the innerparts. My iniial response was under the assumption the plant was Indian, I overlooked the Thailand location as I did not expect pictures taken in Thailand to be posted in this group.

 

Pascal

 

From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Monday, 14 October 2024 at 10:25
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>, Pascal Bruggeman <cory...@hotmail.com>, PETER J Matthews <p...@minpaku.ac.jp>
Cc: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: SK425 15MAR-2017:ID

[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you Dr. Bruggeman. Actually, I shot these images in 2016 during my visit to Phuket.

Saroj Kasaju

[Saroj Kasaju]

Dear Dr. Bruggeman,

Mistakenly, I have enclosed the wrong attachment. Please have a look at this one.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Pascal Bruggeman]

I already had the correct protologue in my database so I checked it already but I should again emphasize that with Araceae it is vital to take close-ups of the inside of the spathe too as they hold key characters that distinguish between closely related species. The conclusion remains the same, likely smitinandii but for 100 % certainty pictures of the innerparts are needed.

[Saroj Kasaju]

Typhonium smitinandii Sookch. & J.Murata as confirmed by Dr. K.Z.Hein.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju