Herminium species for ID ABJUL2017/24

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Ashwini Bhatia

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Jul 20, 2017, 10:35:41 AM7/20/17
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This one is a little confusing for me. I think this is Herminium monophyllum but I am not sure. Please advise.

Herminium monophyllum?
Between Mcleodganj and Triund, Dharamshala, HP
2500m approx.
19 July 2017

Thanks.
Ashwini


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J.M. Garg

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Jul 20, 2017, 11:00:19 PM7/20/17
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Superb images. 
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Pankaj Kumar

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Jul 20, 2017, 11:15:12 PM7/20/17
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I need to see the spur. This is not Herminium monophyllum. May be Herminium monorchis, It looks more like Peristylus fallax but need to see the spur to confirm.
Best regards
Pankaj

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J.M. Garg

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Jul 21, 2017, 12:13:21 AM7/21/17
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Thanks, Pankaj ji. 

Ashwini Bhatia

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Jul 21, 2017, 12:38:57 AM7/21/17
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Thank you Pankaj ji. I am including here a couple of photos showing the spurs. Hopefully these are sufficient to show the characteristics you wanted to see.

Many thanks once again.

With regards,
Ashwini
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Pankaj Kumar

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Jul 21, 2017, 1:06:14 AM7/21/17
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Yes Peristylus fallax.
Check the pic below.
Best regards
Pankaj

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Pankaj Kumar

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Jul 21, 2017, 1:08:42 AM7/21/17
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I dont have any new references but it is not recorded from Himachal. Its a new record for the state. You must publish it.

Pankaj



Ashwini Bhatia

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Jul 21, 2017, 2:00:11 AM7/21/17
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Thank you very much Pankaj ji. What are we looking at in the photograph? Is it the base of the column? I am including a larger resolution part of the photo. I will revisit the plant soon and photograph it properly again.

I am not sure how and where I should publish that this species occurs here. Please advise.

Many thanks.
Ashwini

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Pankaj Kumar

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Jul 21, 2017, 2:10:02 AM7/21/17
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The arrow points at the spur which is at the base of labellum and part of the labellum. I think Journal of Threatened Taxa will accept it.

Ashwini Bhatia

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Jul 21, 2017, 2:22:53 AM7/21/17
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Thank you once again for explaining this and for the advice. I will read the guidelines and prepare a document soon for review. 

With warm regards,
Ashwini

J.M. Garg

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Jul 21, 2017, 9:15:20 AM7/21/17
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I think you should jointly publish it as Pankaj ji is the right person to properly guide you in the matter. 

Pankaj Kumar

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Jul 21, 2017, 9:25:51 AM7/21/17
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No no, i will help with the same effort even without authorship :) so don't worry about giving authorship to me!!
Thank you Garg sir for offering !!
Pankaj 

J.M. Garg

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Jul 21, 2017, 11:10:23 AM7/21/17
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I always feel that efforts of anyone helping in the matter should be recognized. 
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