Jasmine? ABMAY01/16

[Ashwini Bhatia]

There are several shrubs of these near my home. Could this be a Jasmine?

Above Mcleodganj, Dharamshala, HP

1800m

8 May 2015

Thanks.

Ashwini

[Ushadi Micromini]

Himalayan honeysuckle ?

Lonicera glabrata most likely

opens white, turns yellow

wait till it fruits

may not be edible but translucent red berries may develop , I dont know for sure

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[Ashwini Bhatia]

Thank you Ushadi. I will await the fruits.

Regards,
Ashwini

On 22-May-2015, at 11:14 pm, Ushadi Micromini <micromi...@gmail.com> wrote:

Himalayan honeysuckle ?

Lonicera glabrata most likely

opens white, turns yellow

wait till it fruits

may not be edible but translucent red berries may develop , I dont know for sure

usha di

On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 10:12 PM, Ashwini Bhatia <ash...@ashwinibhatia.com> wrote:

There are several shrubs of these near my home. Could this be a Jasmine?

Above Mcleodganj, Dharamshala, HP

1800m

8 May 2015

Thanks.

Ashwini

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[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Himalayan honeysuckle ? Lonicera glabrata most likely opens white, turns yellow wait till it fruits may not be edible but translucent red berries may develop , I dont know for sure usha di

Lonicera species in eFIoraofindia (with details/ keys from published papers/ regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ efloras/ books etc., where ever available)

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[Narain Singh Chauhan]

Is it an erect shrub ?

[M Swamy]

Lonicera species

On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 2:16 PM, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Ashwini Bhatia]

It is Dr Chauhan. But not tall, the branches bending low on the slopes.

Thanks and regards,

Ashwini

On 30-May-2015, at 4:49 pm, Narain Singh Chauhan <nscha...@gmail.com> wrote:

Is it an erect shrub ?

On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 2:16 PM, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Himalayan honeysuckle ? Lonicera glabrata most likely opens white, turns yellow wait till it fruits may not be edible but translucent red berries may develop , I dont know for sure usha di
Lonicera species in eFIoraofindia (with details/ keys from published papers/ regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ efloras/ books etc., where ever available)

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Date: 22 May 2015 at 22:12
Subject: [efloraofindia:224744] Jasmine? ABMAY01/16
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There are several shrubs of these near my home. Could this be a Jasmine?

Above Mcleodganj, Dharamshala, HP

1800m

8 May 2015

Thanks.

Ashwini

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[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Himalayan honeysuckle ? Lonicera glabrata most likely opens white, turns yellow wait till it fruits may not be edible but translucent red berries may develop , I dont know for sure usha di
Lonicera species in eFIoraofindia (with details/ keys from published papers/ regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ efloras/ books etc., where ever available)

Is it an erect shrub ?- from Chauhan ji

It is Dr Chauhan. But not tall, the branches bending low on the slopes. Thanks and regards, Ashwini

Lonicera species- from Mahadeswara ji.

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[Anil Thakur]

Ashwini ji,
First photograph appears as Lonicera quinquelocularis.
Second and third one are of cultivated sp. L. japonica.

[ash...@ashwinibhatia.com]

Thank you Mr Swamy.

Regards,
Ashwini

On 31-May-2015, at 8:43 am, M Swamy <swamy...@gmail.com> wrote:

Lonicera species

On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 2:16 PM, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Himalayan honeysuckle ? Lonicera glabrata most likely opens white, turns yellow wait till it fruits may not be edible but translucent red berries may develop , I dont know for sure usha di
Lonicera species in eFIoraofindia (with details/ keys from published papers/ regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ efloras/ books etc., where ever available)

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From: Ashwini Bhatia <ash...@ashwinibhatia.com>
Date: 22 May 2015 at 22:12
Subject: [efloraofindia:224744] Jasmine? ABMAY01/16
To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>

There are several shrubs of these near my home. Could this be a Jasmine?

Above Mcleodganj, Dharamshala, HP

1800m

8 May 2015

Thanks.

Ashwini

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[Ushadi Micromini]

anil

first one ... i have no doubt you are right

but the later two ...

i have doubts that its japanese honey suckle..

if not l. japonica what else could it be...

needs further investigation.

i should perhaps know since i have helped our forest and bot dept
uproot hundreds over several years as part of volunteer group that
tried to eradicate weeds invading the parkways and native forests...

may be key of native and invading loniceras would help

do you have one?

thanks

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[ash...@ashwinibhatia.com]

Dear Thakur Ji,

If I remember correctly these are of the same plant. It could be a cultivated species as well because I photographed it at the boundary of a school compound.

Regards,
Ashwini

[Gurcharan Singh]

There is some confusion some where. My first reaction was also L. quinquelocularis (first photograph) and L. japonica (last two). The two can't be normally normally be confused as former is an erect shrub with flowers not longer than 2 cm and latter a woody climber with flowers 3-5 cm long.

I am uploading both for comparison. 

Dr. Gurcharan Singh

Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
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Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089

http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ 
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

[Ashwini Bhatia]

My apologies for creating this confusion inadvertently. The two plants must then be growing next to each other making me believe that they were the same species. 

Thank you for correcting me.

Warm regards,

Ashwini

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[Anil Thakur]

Dear Ashwini ji,
Leaf morphology indicated these plants belonging to two different species. It is quite possible that they may be growing close to each others.

[Ashwini Bhatia]

I realise my mistake Thakur ji. They were definitely close to each other otherwise I would not have made this error.

Many thanks,

Ashwini

[Ushadi Micromini]

fine

Ashwini's number 2 and three have flowers that have thick juicy petals themselves, that does not tally with my experience of L. japonica, niether  does it match any pictures on the net and not with Gurcharanji's pictures...  Thank you Guracharanji for the pictures ... which is which?

this thick juicy petals themselves (forget the sweet nectar that the hummingbirds and the butterflies with long probosis drink up and some children)  is neityher of the teo that have beeen menrtioned.

to my mind just the length does not make a flower.

Its the subtle quality of the petal has to be taken into account.

Ashwini, lets wait for the berries...  would be green turning to red, or white or even black..

we will definitely know then...

no need to apologize.

usha di

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[Ushadi Micromini]

i forgot to include this link.. for the california native honeysuckle with two non natives: for the berry colors:

here it is :

http://www.calflora.org/cgi-bin/specieslist.cgi?where-genus=Lonicera

usha di

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[Anil Thakur]

Garg ji
There is no doubt that these photographs belong to Lonicera quinquelocularis and L.japonica. Dr. Gurcharan Singh's photographs have cleared all doubts regarding the identity.

I have posted Lonicera quinquelocularis in April 2018 and will also post L. japonica separately.

Regards

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Anil ji

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[Ashwini Bhatia]

Thank you once again Anil ji.

[Saroj Kasaju]

All 3 images of Lonicera !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 4:24 PM Anil Thakur <aniltha...@gmail.com> wrote:

Kindly recheck 2nd and 3rd photographs.
Regards

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[Anil Thakur]

Garg ji, Kindly remove photograph no. 2 and 3, which belongs to L. japonica.
Regards

On Friday 22 May 2015 at 22:13:12 UTC+5:30 ashwini wrote: