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Alok Goyal

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Sep 10, 2010, 12:50:28 AM9/10/10
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Hallo all

"what is this" rounded structure with primordial roots (i suppose) on "which is this" plant. 

The plant is a twiner with heart shaped leaves. plant is covering the fence of my house at Mohali (punjab).
temperature - 27-28C
Humidity ~ 70%
Altitude - 348m
the twigs and stem of the twiner have some pink or sometimes deep red coloured  membranous appendages along the length of whole branch. and these are especially prominent around nodes.

Alok


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Vijayasankar

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Sep 10, 2010, 12:58:21 AM9/10/10
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Alok ji, "this" is the bulbil, meant for vegetative propagation, found in certain species of Dioscorea, Amorphophallus etc. these bulbils germinate under favorable condition to give rise new plantlets asexually.
 
Your plant is Dioscorea alata, i think.

With regards

Vijayasankar


mani nair

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Sep 10, 2010, 1:03:56 AM9/10/10
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looks like yam.
Mani.

Gurcharan Singh

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Sep 10, 2010, 1:36:07 AM9/10/10
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Membranous appendages may represent wings, plus opposite leaves may suggest D. alata, which I had upploaded from Delhi sometimes back, though I have never seen such bulbils.


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Pankaj Kumar

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Sep 10, 2010, 3:31:09 AM9/10/10
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Also called as AIR POTATO!!
Pankaj

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Vijayasankar

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Sep 10, 2010, 10:24:34 AM9/10/10
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Is it used as vegetable, Pankaj?

With regards

Vijayasankar


Pankaj Kumar

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Sep 10, 2010, 1:57:48 PM9/10/10
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I am nto sure if it is edible. Its just that it looks like potato
hanging in air.
Pankaj

mani nair

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Sep 10, 2010, 2:16:38 PM9/10/10
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Yes it is edible.  I have seen tribals selling this in our Vegetable market  (Dombivli, Maharashtra)

Regards,

Mani.

Vijayasankar

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Sep 10, 2010, 3:35:57 PM9/10/10
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Thats an useful info Mani ji, thanks.
 
Pankaj, yes, D. bulbifera is known as 'air potato'. This reminds me an incident.
 
During our 'Village Botanists' training program, a participant (a knowledgeable villager) aptly called this species (D. bulbifera) as 'Urulai valli kodi' [urulai = potato; valli kodi = Dioscorea spp.]. He had not seen the plant in his region earlier and there is no such name exist for this plant in the literature (?), he simply coined a new name, not only for this but also for few other uncommon plants. Another example could be this: He spontaneously called Oberonia (again a new plant for him) as 'ottu kathazhai' [ottu denotes an epiphyte; kathazhai = Agave]. Importantly all participants incl. nattuvaidhyas / traditional healers from different distrists of TN liked and accepted the new names. That was interesting.

With regards

Vijayasankar


Pankaj Kumar

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Sep 10, 2010, 3:47:06 PM9/10/10
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Yeah, thats interesting Vijay. That goes against one of our
discussions on local and botanical names few days back.

Ironically, for orchids, tribals call all epiphytic ones as BANDA,
which basically means a plant growing on other plant or tree. So at
times I had lot of problem in making them understand.

Local names are also based on the closest resemblances of the
concerned species with any other common plant. For example, tribals
call Pholidota imbricata as Pathal Kela, literally meaning BANANA
GROWING ON ROCKS. Pointing towards the almost banana shaped bulbs and
the clusters of P. imbricata. Vanda tessellata, they call BANDAR
KANWA, literally meaning EAR LIKE A MONKEY, pointing towards the ear
like shape of petals and sepals. Oberonia falconeri they call KAN
CHAPRA, literally meaning FLAT EAR, pointing towards the flat ear like
structure of the plant body projecting out from the host tree. They
have their own way of naming....

Regards
Pankaj

Gurcharan Singh

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Sep 11, 2010, 2:05:57 AM9/11/10
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When I first photographed D. alata in Delhi University, the gardener gave me its name as Mati Alu, It produces both aerial potato like bulbils and underground tubers. It was introduced from Asia as a possible food source in the early 1800s to other countries. In some countries it is presently being cultivated for medicinal uses.

Gurcharan Singh

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Oct 9, 2010, 8:17:48 PM10/9/10
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Resurfacing again for ID 

Earlier feedback

Vijayasankar ji and me...................................................Dioscorea alata


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Dinesh Valke

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Oct 10, 2010, 2:14:34 AM10/10/10
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... remember to have read that D. alata is the only Dioscorea having oppositely arranged leaves.
Regards.

Balkar Arya

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Oct 10, 2010, 12:05:04 PM10/10/10
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May be Dioscorea oppositifolia
Twining from left to right

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J.M. Garg

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Oct 31, 2010, 1:58:42 AM10/31/10
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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise pl.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

“Alok ji, "this" is the bulbil, meant for vegetative propagation, found in certain species of Dioscorea, Amorphophallus etc. these bulbils germinate under favorable condition to give rise new plantlets asexually. 


Your plant is Dioscorea alata, i think.

With regards

Vijayasankar”

 

“Membranous appendages may represent wings, plus opposite leaves may suggest D. alata, which I had upploaded from Delhi sometimes back, though I have never seen such bulbils.

--
Dr. Gurcharan Singh”

 

“Also called as AIR POTATO!!
Pankaj”

"... remember to have read that D. alata is the only Dioscorea having oppositely arranged leaves." from Dinesh ji.
"May be Dioscorea oppositifolia
Twining from left to right
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Regards
Dr Balkar Singh"
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Gurcharan Singh

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Nov 15, 2010, 12:15:43 PM11/15/10
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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise pl.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

“Alok ji, "this" is the bulbil, meant for vegetative propagation, found in certain species of Dioscorea, Amorphophallus etc. these bulbils germinate under favorable condition to give rise new plantlets asexually. 


Your plant is Dioscorea alata, i think.

With regards

Vijayasankar”

 

“Membranous appendages may represent wings, plus opposite leaves may suggest D. alata, which I had upploaded from Delhi sometimes back, though I have never seen such bulbils.

-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh”

 

“Also called as AIR POTATO!!
Pankaj”

"... remember to have read that D. alata is the only Dioscorea having oppositely arranged leaves." from Dinesh ji.
"May be Dioscorea oppositifolia
Twining from left to right
-- 
Regards
Dr Balkar Singh"


-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 
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C KUNHIKANNAN

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Nov 17, 2010, 1:35:52 PM11/17/10
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yes it is Dioscorea alata. it is not Dioscorea bulbifera. It is not D.
opositifoila. Both the under ground rhizome and tubers in air are
edible after boiling or preparing some curries with tamarind. It will
give very big tubers weighing more than ten kg. under cultivation. the
portion attached to the aerial stem and aerial tubers are used for
planting. Plants from aerial tubers starts giving better rhizome
production in second year. The aerial tubers are mainly for spreading
the species.
D.tomentosa and D.pentaphylla also have these types of aerial tubers.
they are having digitate leaves.
kunhikannan

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Pankaj Kumar

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Dec 2, 2010, 3:49:18 AM12/2/10
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Dioscorea alata L. Sp. Pl. 2: 1033. 1753

Type: Lectotype - Herb. Linn 1184.2 (LINN)

Regards
Pankaj

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