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Gurcharan Singh

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Apr 4, 2011, 10:49:58 AM4/4/11
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04032011GS2 for ID from Delhi
The herb has all characteristics of Allium, but no trace of any onion or garlic smell
Leaves linear, flat, about 1 cm wide, all basal, upto 25 cm long
Scape about 30-40 cm long, flowers subumbellate, subtended by spathaceous bract
Flowers white, about 8-9 mm across; filaments without any basal teeth.
Growing in Herbal Garden in Delhi

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Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
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Gurcharan Singh

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Apr 19, 2011, 9:03:19 AM4/19/11
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Tracked it down to some species of Muilla, but yet to fix the species. 

Interestingly the genus Muilla which is very similar to Allium except for lacking the characteristic smell was proposed by G. Watson in 1879 by writing the spellings of genus Allium in reverse order. Perhaps three species of the genus are recognised, and the plant matches most with M. transmontana, but the leaves are broader than that species.


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Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

J.M. Garg

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Aug 7, 2011, 9:19:58 AM8/7/11
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Some earlier relevant feedback:

“Tracked it down to some species of Muilla, but yet to fix the species.


Interestingly the genus Muilla which is very similar to Allium except for lacking the characteristic smell was proposed by G. Watson in 1879 by writing the spellings of genus Allium in reverse order. Perhaps three species of the genus are recognised, and the plant matches most with M. transmontana, but the leaves are broader than that species.
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Dr. Gurcharan Singh”

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Gurcharan Singh

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Sep 27, 2011, 9:29:07 AM9/27/11
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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

“Tracked it down to some species of Muilla, but yet to fix the species.


Interestingly the genus Muilla which is very similar to Allium except for lacking the characteristic smell was proposed by G. Watson in 1879 by writing the spellings of genus Allium in reverse order. Perhaps three species of the genus are recognised, and the plant matches most with M. transmontana, but the leaves are broader than that species.
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Dr. Gurcharan Singh”




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Pankaj Kumar

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Sep 27, 2011, 9:33:11 AM9/27/11
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I imagine why this is not Allium!!
Pankaj

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Pankaj Kumar

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Sep 27, 2011, 9:33:50 AM9/27/11
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Oh I am sorry. Read the explaination of Gurucharan sir afterwards.
Pankaj

Balkar Arya

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Sep 27, 2011, 10:07:13 AM9/27/11
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Thanks Sir for enlightening us about this interesting Botanical incident
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Gurcharan Singh

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Nov 21, 2011, 12:43:39 AM11/21/11
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Resurfacing again for ID

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Me...............................................Tracked it down to some species of Muilla, but yet to fix the species. 
Interestingly the genus Muilla which is very similar to Allium except for lacking the characteristic smell was proposed by G. Watson in 1879 by writing the spellings of genus Allium in reverse order. Perhaps three species of the genus are recognised, and the plant matches most with M. transmontana, but the leaves are broader than that species.


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Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 
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prasad dash

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Nov 21, 2011, 1:35:31 AM11/21/11
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Wao...... superb close up Sir Ji.

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Gurcharan Singh

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Apr 23, 2012, 1:41:16 AM4/23/12
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I was after this plant for a long time. This week I again found this plant flowering, and asked gardener about it. He gave me English name Choice and Hindi name Neelie, but I was apprehensive because I could not detect any onion smell. Today I asked another gardener, he gave the same name and said it has sweet onion smell. He could smell it, I could not, perhaps my smell power has become less sensitive.
   I did some thinking, and thought chives as closest, but it is not Allium schoenoprasum, which however, has pink flowers. Next the garlic chives, Allium tuberosum, and yes the plant looks much similar, but one problem. Allium tuberosum grows in our College Botanical garden, but flowers only in August September. This one flowers in April. 
   Since it is supposed to be important medicinally, could any member throw more light on this.

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Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089

jmgarg1

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Apr 27, 2012, 2:37:12 AM4/27/12
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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

“I was after this plant for a long time. This week I again found this plant flowering, and asked gardener about it. He gave me English name Choice and Hindi name Neelie, but I was apprehensive because I could not detect any onion smell. Today I asked another gardener, he gave the same name and said it has sweet onion smell. He could smell it, I could not, perhaps my smell power has become less sensitive.

   I did some thinking, and thought chives as closest, but it is not Allium schoenoprasum, which however, has pink flowers. Next the garlic chives, Allium tuberosum, and yes the plant looks much similar, but one problem. Allium tuberosum grows in our College Botanical garden, but flowers only in August September. This one flowers in April.

   Since it is supposed to be important medicinally, could any member throw more light on this.
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Dr. Gurcharan Singh”

 

 

 



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Saroj Kumar Kasaju

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Jul 9, 2025, 4:46:20 AM7/9/25
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Please check Nothoscordum ×borbonicum Kunth

Thank you
Saroj Kasaju
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Saroj Kumar Kasaju

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Jul 18, 2026, 1:36:06 AM (7 days ago) Jul 18
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Gurcharan Singh

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Jul 22, 2026, 5:22:09 PM (2 days ago) Jul 22
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Thanks Saroj ji, I think you have nailed it finally

Saroj Kasaju

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Jul 23, 2026, 6:30:43 AM (yesterday) Jul 23
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Thank you Gurucharan sir.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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