Seeking ID for these Yellow Flowers

[Ramjee Gmail]

Dear Friends,

Vanakkam! Greetings from Chennai, Tamil Nadu/

I got to see this plant with beautiful yellow coloured flowers in a neighbour’s garden. Seeking help to recognize the plant id.

Thank you.

Regards,

ramjee

[Rajesh D. Sachdev]

I am not really sure, but looks like cassia tora of caesalpiniaceae family. But it is flower of wild and as reported in the below mail , the photographer shot it in Garden, hence confusion.

 

Rajesh

 

[J.M. Garg]

It appears different from cassia tora, pl. see the link: http://images.google.co.in/imgres?imgurl=http://www.hbgum.com/images/cassia_tora_plant.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.hbgum.com/cassia.htm&h=2272&w=1704&sz=1569&hl=en&start=2&um=1&tbnid=divd6WaYiyNHeM:&tbnh=150&tbnw=113&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcassia%2Btora%2B%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN

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[Madhuri Pejaver]

Dear Gargji, Rajeshji Cassia tora is a small herb of about 12 to 15 inches tall maximum. it has compound leaves with 5 to 7 pairs of leaves. it has pods of 2 to3  inches long with seeds dark brown in colour. the seeds are used in coffee as adultrant. the young leaves in rainy season are used to clean bowels the photo is not of Cassia tora 200% it may be a varity  of Cassia genus but will have to be checked madhuri  --- On Sat, 7/12/08, Rajesh D. Sachdev <rajeshd...@gmail.com> wrote:

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[Rajesh D. Sachdev]

It seems to be a good discussion, would Dr. Niel come ahead and solve the puzzle pls.

Dr. Niel, where are you? or you want all of us to crack puzzles among ourselves, would anyone come ahead and ID the log pending flower on the forum....

 

Rajesh

 

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[Madhuri Pejaver]

forgot to mention that Cassia tora is called as takala in marathi madhuri --- On Sat, 7/12/08, Madhuri Pejaver <formp...@yahoo.com> wrote:

[Sushmita Jha]

This is a very common plant sold in Delhi nurseries. Nobody could help me with the name.
Sushmita Jha

[Mahadeswara Swamy]

The plant looks like Galphimia galuca.
Dr.Mahadeswara swamy

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Mahdeswara ji for Id help.

It may be either Galphimia galuca or Galphimia gracilis. Wikipedia links http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galphimia_gracilis tells this difference between the two: "Galphimia gracilis is easily told apart from the true G. glauca by the flowers. In G. gracilis the petals fall as the fruit matures; in G. glauca the petals are persistent even in fruit." Further it states " Galphimia gracilis, a species in the genus Galphimia of the family Malpighiaceae, is native to eastern Mexico. It is widely cultivated in warm regions throughout the world, often under the common names gold shower or shower-of-gold or sometimes thryallis. In horticultural publications, in the nursery trade, and on websites, this species is commonly but mistakenly referred to as Galphimia glauca, Galphimia brasiliensis, Thryallis glauca, Thryallis gracilis, or (often in South America) Thryallis brasiliensis."

Here are details & links from Indiantreepix Database:

Galphimia glauca (syn. Thryallis glauca)

Malpighiaceae

Golden Thyrallis, Gold Shower, Rain of Gold, Canary bush

As per link- blossoms in late summer and fall although some flowers can be expected at all times if warm temperatures are maintained

Floridata: Galphimia glauca

Malphigia sp for id - indiantreepix | Google Groups

Golden Thyrallis, Galphimia Glauca, Gardening

Galphimia gracilis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

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[Ramjee Gmail]

Dear Friends,

I guess the plant is Galphimia gracilis.

After looking at the details in the Univ of Michigan, I guess the plant with the yellow flowers that I had shared could be G. gracilis.

From http://herbarium.lsa.umich.edu/malpigh/GalClade/Galphimia/GalGlau.html and

http://herbarium.lsa.umich.edu/malpigh/GalClade/Galphimia/GalGrac.html

I fell my guess is more true as the leaves did not have any visible veination. Please look at the photo below and correct me if am wrong.

 

 

Thank you.

with kind regards,

ramjee

 

 

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From: J.M. Garg

To: Mahadeswara Swamy

Cc: Sushmita Jha ; formp...@yahoo.com ; indian...@googlegroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 8:28 PM

[Mahadeswara Swamy]

Galphimia glauca is synonym of G.gracilis (the changed name - latest ).   So both are the same .
Dr. Mahadeswara swamy

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[Dr Pankaj Kumar]

They are not synonyms.
They are different plants.
Pankaj

On Jul 20 2008, 10:07 pm, Mahadeswara Swamy <swamy_c...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> Galphimia glauca is synonym of G.gracilis (the changed name - latest ).   So both are the same .
> Dr. Mahadeswara swamy
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----

> From: Ramjee Gmail <ramje...@gmail.com>
> To: J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com>; Mahadeswara Swamy <swamy_c...@yahoo.com>
>
> Cc: Sushmita Jha <sushmitas...@gmail.com>; formpeja...@yahoo.com; TreePix India <indian...@googlegroups.com>

> Sent: Sunday, 20 July, 2008 6:29:02 PM
> Subject: [Indiantreepix] Re: Seeking ID for these Yellow Flowers
>
> Dear
> Friends,
> I
> guess the plant is Galphimiagracilis.
> After
> looking at the details in the Univ of Michigan, I
> guess the plant with the yellow flowers that I had shared could be G. gracilis.

> Fromhttp://herbarium.lsa.umich.edu/malpigh/GalClade/Galphimia/GalGlau.htmlandhttp://herbarium.lsa.umich.edu/malpigh/GalClade/Galphimia/GalGrac.html

> I
> fell my guess is more true as the leaves did not have any visible veination. Please look at the photo below and correct me if
> am wrong.
>

> Thank
> you.
> withkind

> regards,
> ramjee
>
> -----
> Original Message -----
> From:J.M. Garg
> To:Mahadeswara Swamy
> Cc:Sushmita

> Jha ; formpeja...@yahoo.com ; indian...@googlegroups.com
> Sent:Wednesday, July
> 16, 20088:28

> PM
> Subject:[Indiantreepix] Re: Seeking ID for these Yellow
> Flowers
>
> Thanks, Mahdeswara ji for Id
> help.
> It
> may be either Galphimiagaluca orGalphimiagracilis. Wikipedia linkshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galphimia_gracilistells

> this difference between the two: "Galphimiagracilis is
> easily told apart from the true G. glauca by the flowers. In G.. gracilis the

> petals fall as the fruit matures; in G. glauca the petals are persistent even in

> fruit." Further it states " Galphimiagracilis, a species in the genus Galphimia of the family Malpighiaceae, is native to eastern Mexico. It is widely cultivated

> in warm regions throughout the world, often under the common names gold shower or shower-of-gold or sometimes thryallis. In
> horticultural publications, in the nursery trade, and on websites, this species

> is commonly but mistakenly referred to as Galphimia glauca, Galphimia brasiliensis, Thryallisglauca, Thryallisgracilis, or

> (often in South America) Thryallisbrasiliensis."
> Here
> are details & links from Indiantreepix Database:

> Galphimiaglauca (syn. Thryallis glauca)  Malpighiaceae Golden Thyrallis, Gold Shower, Rain of Gold, Canary  bush    As  per link- blossoms in late summer and fall although some flowers can be  expected at all times if warm temperatures are  maintained Floridata: Galphimia glauca Malphigia sp for id - indiantreepix | Google Groups Golden Thyrallis, Galphimia Glauca,  Gardening Galphimia gracilis - Wikipedia, the free  encyclopedia
>
> On Wed, Jul 16,
> 2008at 7:42
> PM, Mahadeswara Swamy <swamy_c...@yahoo.com>

> wrote:
> The
> plant looks like Galphimiagaluca.
> Dr.Mahadeswara swamy
>
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> Original Message ----

> From: Sushmita Jha <sushmitas...@gmail.com>
> To: formpeja...@yahoo.com

> Cc: "indian...@googlegroups.com" <indian...@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, 12 July,

> 200810:15:16

> PM
> Subject: [Indiantreepix] Re: Seeking ID for
> these Yellow Flowers
>
> This is a very common plant

> sold in Delhinurseries. Nobody

> could help me with the name.
> Sushmita Jha
> On Sat, Jul 12,

> 2008at 5:03
> PM, Madhuri Pejaver <formpeja...@yahoo.com>

> wrote:
> forgot  to mention that Cassia tora is called as takala in marathi
> madhuri
>

> ---  On Sat, 7/12/08, Madhuri Pejaver <formpeja...@yahoo.com>wrote:
> From: Madhuri Pejaver <formpeja...@yahoo.com>

>
> Subject:  [Indiantreepix] Re: Seeking ID for these Yellow  Flowers

> To:  "Rajesh D. Sachdev" <rajeshdsach...@gmail.com>

> Cc: "indian...@googlegroups.com" <indian...@googlegroups.com>
> Date: Saturday,  July 12, 2008, 3:48  PM
>
> Dear Gargji, Rajeshji
> Cassia tora is a small herb of about 12 to 15  inches tall maximum.

> ithas  compound leaves with 5 to 7 pairs of  leaves.
> ithas  pods of 2 to3  inches long with seeds dark brown in colour.
> theseeds  are used in coffee as adultrant.

> the  young leaves in rainy season are used to clean  bowels
> the  photo is not of Cassia tora 200%
> it  may be a varity  of Cassia genus but  will have to be checked
> madhuri
>

> ---  On Sat,  7/12/08,  Rajesh D. Sachdev <rajeshdsach...@gmail.com>wrote:
> From:  Rajesh D. Sachdev <rajeshdsach...@gmail.com>

> Subject: [Indiantreepix] Re: Seeking ID for these Yellow  Flowers

> To: indiantree...@googlegroups.comEranthemum roseum

> Date: Saturday,  July 12, 2008, 2:41  PM
> I  am not really sure, but looks like cassia tora of caesalpiniaceae family.  But it is flower of wild and as reported in the below mail , the photographer shot it in Garden, hence  confusion.
>
> Rajesh
>

> On 7/12/08, Ramjee Gmail <ramje...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear  Friends,
> Vanakkam! Greetings from Chennai, Tamil  Nadu/
> I got to see  this plant with beautiful yellow coloured flowers in a neighbour's  garden. Seeking help to recognize the plant id.
> Thank  you.
> Regards,
> ramjee
>

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[Pinki]

Its some Galphimia...most probably Galphimia gracilis not sure though
about the species....

Alok

On Oct 19, 5:54 pm, Dr Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> They are not synonyms.
> They are different plants.
> Pankaj
>
> On Jul 20 2008, 10:07 pm, Mahadeswara Swamy <swamy_c...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Galphimia glauca is synonym of G.gracilis (the changed name - latest ).   So both are the same .
> > Dr. Mahadeswara swamy
>
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Ramjee Gmail <ramje...@gmail.com>
> > To: J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com>; Mahadeswara Swamy <swamy_c...@yahoo.com>
>
> > Cc: Sushmita Jha <sushmitas...@gmail.com>; formpeja...@yahoo.com; TreePix India <indian...@googlegroups.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, 20 July, 2008 6:29:02 PM
> > Subject: [Indiantreepix] Re: Seeking ID for these Yellow Flowers
>
> > Dear
> > Friends,
> > I
> > guess the plant is Galphimiagracilis.
> > After
> > looking at the details in the Univ of Michigan, I
> > guess the plant with the yellow flowers that I had shared could be G. gracilis.

> > Fromhttp://herbarium.lsa.umich.edu/malpigh/GalClade/Galphimia/GalGlau.htm...

[Ushadi micromini]

Might be a gracilis, but need better picture of the side of the
inflorescence to look at its branching pattern...

better take photos of several, you plant has a number of them...

I have two g. gracilis in my balcony right now... You are right Ramjee
Gamail ji.. the leaf veins are not prominent... but that is not a
criterion for diagnosis...

I have recently written a lot about Galphimia since it was a subject
of making diagnosis myself...and the it just so happened we had
several threads... some turned out to be long and lively with very
useful conversations: I will mention two: take a look at these:

1): a useful set of links and the process of arriving at the
diagnosis was given in two threads... one such is :
http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/f6002e84fe14fa62/56547b876046bdcd?lnk=gst&q=galphimia+usha+di#56547b876046bdcd

I had written (as a doctor) to another doctor so it was in form of
differenatial diagnosis... but without medical jargon... in plain
english...

and Pankaj ji had shared nice bw pics ...

2 ): and we had another discussion at this thread :
http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/2d8b4cb840e4f170/c678a40dd3cb569e?lnk=gst&q=galphimia+usha+di#c678a40dd3cb569e


look at it....

will help for now and forever in diagnosis of galphimia ..... which
the nursery trade in India seems to be very enamoured of right now...
Usha di
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[JM Garg]

I think Galphimia gracilis only as per

https://webapps.lsa.umich.edu/herbarium/malpigh/GalClade/Galphimia/GalGrac.html

https://webapps.lsa.umich.edu/herbarium/malpigh/GalClade/Galphimia/Gal1.html#

https://webapps.lsa.umich.edu/herb/malpigh/GalClade/Galphimia/GalGlau.html

http://efloraindia.nic.in/efloraindia/taxonList.action?id=2604&type=3

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Promila ji.

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It seems tobe Galphimia gracilis.

Promila

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Mahadeswara ji.

There is only one species i.e. Galphimia gracilis cultivated as per both BSI (in India) & the authority on this genus as per the following links:

http://efloraindia.nic.in/efloraindia/taxonList.action?id=2604&type=3

https://webapps.lsa.umich.edu/herbarium/malpigh/GalClade/Galphimia/Gal1.html# (One species native in eastern Mexico, Galphimia gracilis Bartl., is widely cultivated in the tropics and subtropics as an ornamental shrub. It passes under the colloquial names "goldshower" and "shower-of-gold" and equivalents in local languages, and also as "thryallis." It is frequently misidentified as "Galphimia brasiliensis," "Galphimia glauca," "Thryallis brasiliensis," T. glauca," and "Thryallis gracilis." Galphimia gracilis is easily told apart from the true G. glauca and G. brasiliensis by the flowers. In G. gracilis the petals fall as the fruit matures; in G. glauca the petals are persistent even in fruit. In G. gracilis many flowers of a dense inflorescence are open at one time, and the petals (claw and limb) are 8–14 mm long and 4–8 mm wide; in G. brasiliensis only 2 or 3 small flowers are open at one time on a sparse inflorescence, and the petals are only 4–5 mm long and ca. 3 mm wide. Galphimia glauca and G. brasiliensis are not cultivated.)

You can check the differences between the two as per the illustrations at

https://webapps.lsa.umich.edu/herbarium/malpigh/GalClade/Galphimia/GalGrac.html

https://webapps.lsa.umich.edu/herb/malpigh/GalClade/Galphimia/GalGlau.html

On checking in efi, there is not a single post which matches with G. glauca. All are of Galphimia gracilis

I have also requested Tabish ji to make corrections in FOI.

On 19 November 2017 at 18:12, M Swamy <swamy...@gmail.com> wrote:

Doubtful ID.  I have this plant in my garden.

On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 1:31 PM, JM Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

[J.M. Garg]

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From: M Swamy <swamy...@gmail.com>
Date: 20 November 2017 at 09:29
Subject: Re: Seeking ID for these Yellow Flowers
To: "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>

Thanks.