Why POWO does not include all synonyms as in WCSP?

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J.M. Garg

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Oct 2, 2020, 5:43:22 AM10/2/20
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I am not able to understand why POWO does not include all synonyms as mentioned in the most reliable KEW database so far i.e. WCSP.
Although these are properly captured in Catalogue of Life, whenever it sources its data from WCSP.
Does anybody have any clue ?
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I am also with the same opinion about the POWO. In most cases it is very helpful but in some cases it is clueless.
It does not include most of the sbsp. and var. species and distribution. And, in some cases 
syn are mentioned as the accepted name which are not in other links!
Thank you.

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Oct 4, 2020, 3:57:10 AM10/4/20
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Can anybody offer any clues as both come from KEW itself ?
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Dipankar Borah

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Oct 4, 2020, 5:52:22 AM10/4/20
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May be due to the vastness of the data set they can't function simultaneously, and both seems independent in functioning. 

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Garg ji
I think the reason is their history, source and approach.
POWO was launched only in 2017 with a focus on key tropical African Floras - Flora Zambesiaca, Flora of West Tropical Africa and Flora of Tropical East Africa specifically. In addition, a key function of POWO is to ensure that Kew's floristic data can be harvested and incorporated by the World Flora Online (WFO) portal.
WCSP, on the other hand has been working since 1994, has now become an international collaborative programme with more than 150 contributors from 22 countries.
KEW also hosts Catalogue of Life largely based on this Collaborative Approach, includes all organisms and not only Plants as in above two.





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I fully agree with Gurcharan Sir. In case of any correction/modification required in POWO, please write to Dr. Rafael Govaerts with a document (such as publication) and he will take care of it. However, there may be slight delay at present because the Kew staff are working only 3 days a week. IPNI also taking longer time to update data. Linking IPNI with POWO is also a big task.
Anyway, one may request Dr. Kanchi Gandhi at Harvard for any update in IPNI.
Tapas.

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Garg ji
I think the reason is their history, source and approach.
POWO was launched only in 2017 with a focus on key tropical African Floras - Flora Zambesiaca, Flora of West Tropical Africa and Flora of Tropical East Africa specifically. In addition, a key function of POWO is to ensure that Kew's floristic data can be harvested and incorporated by the World Flora Online (WFO) portal.
WCSP, on the other hand has been working since 1994, has now become an international collaborative programme with more than 150 contributors from 22 countries.
KEW also hosts Catalogue of Life largely based on this Collaborative Approach, includes all organisms and not only Plants as in above two.





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Thanks, Singh ji and Tapas ji.
I could not follow "KEW also hosts Catalogue of Life largely based on this Collaborative Approach, includes all organisms and not only Plants as in above two"

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Garg ji
I think the reason is their history, source and approach.
POWO was launched only in 2017 with a focus on key tropical African Floras - Flora Zambesiaca, Flora of West Tropical Africa and Flora of Tropical East Africa specifically. In addition, a key function of POWO is to ensure that Kew's floristic data can be harvested and incorporated by the World Flora Online (WFO) portal.
WCSP, on the other hand has been working since 1994, has now become an international collaborative programme with more than 150 contributors from 22 countries.
KEW also hosts Catalogue of Life largely based on this Collaborative Approach, includes all organisms and not only Plants as in above two.





Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Mob: 9810359089


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Garg Ji 
Information in Catalogue of Life for Seed Plants is largely based on Kew Database, with addition sources also incorporated. May be use of KEW also hosts is in error by me





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Thanks, Singh ji and Tapas ji.
I could not follow "KEW also hosts Catalogue of Life largely based on this Collaborative Approach, includes all organisms and not only Plants as in above two"

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Garg ji
I think the reason is their history, source and approach.
POWO was launched only in 2017 with a focus on key tropical African Floras - Flora Zambesiaca, Flora of West Tropical Africa and Flora of Tropical East Africa specifically. In addition, a key function of POWO is to ensure that Kew's floristic data can be harvested and incorporated by the World Flora Online (WFO) portal.
WCSP, on the other hand has been working since 1994, has now become an international collaborative programme with more than 150 contributors from 22 countries.
KEW also hosts Catalogue of Life largely based on this Collaborative Approach, includes all organisms and not only Plants as in above two.





Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Mob: 9810359089


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Thanks, Singh ji.
Yes, Catalogue of relies on WCSP, for many but I think not all families, it has.

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POWO is relatively new. Unlike people and websites who like to copy paste things, POWO when started, had been running short of workforce and then covid happened. Hence it has been lagging behind. Hence POWO is not complete yet.
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