Fruits & Vegetables Week: Rumex dentatus,

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Gurcharan Singh

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Jan 11, 2011, 11:21:55 PM1/11/11
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Rumex dentatus, a weed of cultivation and growing in waste places is often used as vegetable, a rich source of Calcium, beta carotene, vitamin A and vitamin C.
 
Local Names
Hindi: Ambavah, amrule
Delhi: Lal bibi, jungli palak 

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tanay bose

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Jan 12, 2011, 12:54:10 AM1/12/11
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Do people ear this?
tanay
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Nidhan Singh

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Jan 12, 2011, 9:04:01 AM1/12/11
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Hi,
It becomes a nuisance when it comes along with wheat. You might be
aware that this is troublesome weed in wheat harvesting areas of our
region. I actually didn't know about it being used as a vegetable.
Thanks for the info.
Regards,


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Gurcharan Singh

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Jan 12, 2011, 9:23:37 AM1/12/11
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Since there has been a lot of discussion in another thread about the use of Alstonia scholaris wood for making slates for school children (hence the name scholaris), those who must have used wooden slates (Takhti) must be knowing that there are two ways of doing this:
 
1. First ways is to smear the surface of slate with a suspension of white clay, allow it to dry and then wright with normal ink using wooden pen (kalam)........black/blue black on white.
 
2. Second way includes moving slate over a flame of oil lamp in such a way that it gets covered with soot. The next step is to rub the fresh leaves of Rumex so that the soot sticks firmly on the slate, and then rub back of inkpot on the slate to give it a shine (ghota). This black slate is then written on using the suspension of white clay.........white on black 
 


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Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
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tanay bose

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Jan 12, 2011, 9:26:16 AM1/12/11
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I have never experience such cool ways to do my studies !!
Thanks for sharing the info
Tanay

Na Bha

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Jan 12, 2011, 10:15:19 AM1/12/11
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Very interesting information Prof. Singh ji.
I used a real slate. I wish i had made my own slate the way you have described.
My grandfather told us about Dhulpati. The used to spread dust over a plate and write in that.
 
The wooden pen (kalam ) you are writing about, is a wooden pen? My father used to use Boru, which is made from Bamboo.  But kalam ist different is it?
 I don't have a boru here with me and can't post a foto of it. But i have the squeak sound of it in my ears.
Regards
Nalini

Gurcharan Singh

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Jan 12, 2011, 11:57:45 AM1/12/11
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Nabha ji
The kalam I am talking about is usually made of cane (Arundo donax in Kashmir; Saccharum spp. in warm climate), oblique cut at one end with split tip like we have in ink pen.
 

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Gurcharan Singh

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Jan 12, 2011, 12:13:20 PM1/12/11
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Squeak yes, if you write pressing it hard
 

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On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 10:40 PM, Na Bha <nabha-...@gmx.de> wrote:
Thanks,
perhaps Boru is also made of cane. Yes, it had oblique cut etc.etc. Does Kalam squeak?
Can anyone from Maharashtra explain Boru?

Madhuri Pejaver

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Jan 13, 2011, 2:12:08 AM1/13/11
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Dear Nabhaji
(I think it is equally nice name as Nalini)
 
As what I remember we had  both Boru and Tak in childhood.
According to my memory Boru is made up of a reed grass/ bamboo whis is hollow, thin.It used to one internode ( as per present scientific knowlege) long. It had the slanting tip which had to be dipped in ink (Royal ink/ Camlin ink, if you remember) and then to be writen on the paper. The tip used to get warn off and we used to sharpen it.
Tak was a solid rod of wood, on the tip of which use to be fitted a mtalic Nib, which was dipped in ink and written on paper.
For this we used to carry ink bottles to shool and many a times spill it on uniforms, those days we never had Surf Exell.
As per my undersanding Kalam is a urdu word which is used for pen like object with which we write. I donot knw seperate wors for Boru and Tak in Urdu or Hindi.
 
As for slate we also used to have real slates which we use to shine(Ghota0 with the coal. Every sunday was that programme. On this we use to write with pencil of some cabonate.
Nice memories
Madhuri 
 
--- On Wed, 12/1/11, Na Bha <nabha-...@gmx.de> wrote:

From: Na Bha <nabha-...@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:60175] Fruits & Vegetables Week: Rumex dentatus,
To: "Gurcharan Singh" <sing...@gmail.com>
Cc: "efloraofindia" <indian...@googlegroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, 12 January, 2011, 10:40 PM



Gurcharan Singh

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Jan 13, 2011, 5:01:17 AM1/13/11
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Yes Madhuri ji and Nabha ji
I feels good to to peep into the past childhood. Yes you reminded me, from the hollow kalam (made from a cane which could be Arundo, Acorus, Saccharum, Bamboo, etc.) we migrated into early pens consisting of a solid wooden rod with a narrow tip into which we would fit a special metallic nib having nib at one end and ring at the other which would fit into the rarrow end of wooden rod. I don't remember any special name for that (like your TaK) but have used them in plenty on paper, before we started using regular plastic pens.

Na Bha

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Jan 13, 2011, 6:52:16 AM1/13/11
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Indeed nice memories, thanks Madhuri ji for sharing them. Yes I returned from the school many times with ink spilled on my dress, my mother saying, she will never learn closing the inkpot carefully. 
Boru I shall ask my brother, if he has one from my father.
 
OK then
Nabha or Nalini
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