Flora of Chakrata- Lycium?? for identification-NS April 03

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Nidhan Singh

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Apr 20, 2014, 9:42:44 PM4/20/14
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Dear All,

This shrub was shot from Chakrata area, I hope this is a Lycium sp., wanted to know the specific id..
If Lycium, is this L. chinense
The corolla is 4-lobed here..

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D.S Rawat

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Apr 23, 2014, 5:24:03 AM4/23/14
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Semms to me as Elaeagnus parvifolia (Elaeagnaceae) if wild.
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Nidhan Singh

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Apr 23, 2014, 7:04:48 AM4/23/14
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Thanks Rawat Ji, you are always at rescue...
Yes, this was wild and your id seems to be correct...

N.S. Chauhan

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Apr 23, 2014, 11:34:48 AM4/23/14
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Elaeagnus umbellata-Gyain,Guan, Giyayin -  a sweet-sour edible fruit bearing shrub.


On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Nidhan Singh <nidhans...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks Rawat Ji, you are always at rescue...
Yes, this was wild and your id seems to be correct...

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Gurcharan Singh

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Apr 23, 2014, 4:27:00 PM4/23/14
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I think E. umbellata only. In E. parvifolia petals are yellow inside and leaves much more greener on upper surface.

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Nidhan Singh

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Apr 23, 2014, 8:30:07 PM4/23/14
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Thanks NS Chauhan Ji and Gurcharan Sir for your valuable inputs...

Prashant Awale

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Apr 24, 2014, 12:42:28 PM4/24/14
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Nice find Nidhan ji.
Beautiful photographs also..
Regards
Prashant

Nidhan Singh

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Apr 24, 2014, 8:13:12 PM4/24/14
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Thanks Prashant Ji for nice words...

J.M. Garg

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Sep 25, 2019, 12:34:39 AM9/25/19
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I could not find difference/ keys between Elaeagnus parvifolia Wall. and Elaeagnus umbellata C. P. Thunb. ex A. Murray, as two appears quite close on net. 

Flora of Pakistan only lists Elaeagnus umbellata with distribution as Japan, Assam, China, Afghanistan and the Himalayas from Kashmir to Bhutan. Flora of China also only lists this species with distribution as Afghanistan, Bhutan, China, India, Japan, Korea, Nepal; naturalized in North America.
While Flora of Nepal only lists Elaeagnus parvifolia Wall. ex Royle with distribution as Afghanistan, Himalaya (Kashmir to Bhutan), Assam, W. China
Flora of Bhutan also only mentions only Elaeagnus parvifolia Wall. ex Royle & not Elaeagnus umbellata Thunb.

Also, Catalogue of Life gives distribution of Elaeagnus parvifolia Wall. as Bhutan, Chumbi, India, Nepal, while for Elaeagnus umbellata C. P. Thunb. ex A. Murray, it gives distribution as China (Anhui, Fujian, Gansu, Guizhou, Hebei, Hubei, Jiangsu, Jiangxi, Liaoning, Nei Mongol, Ningxia, Qinghai, Shaanxi, Shandong, Shanxi, Sichuan, Yunnan, Zhejiang), Taiwan, Tibet, Cambodia, Japan (Hokkaido, Honshu, Shikoku, Kyushu), South Korea, North Korea, Myanmar [Burma], Thailand, Pakistan (Kurram, Swat, Hazara, Murree), Jammu & Kashmir (Kashmir, Poonch), Pakistani Kashmir (Mirpur), ….  

In view, I am taking this as Elaeagnus parvifolia Wall.

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Narain Singh Chauhan

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Oct 1, 2019, 9:17:12 AM10/1/19
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sir, Visually attachment looks likeElaeagnus umbellata; wherteaS OTHER 4 atttachmentsT resemble to Elaeagnus parviflora.
Thanks & regards
Prof. Dr. Narain Singh Chauhan

Gurcharan Singh

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Oct 1, 2019, 11:17:49 AM10/1/19
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E. parviflora Wall. is now known as E. angustifolia var. orientalis. E. angustifolia var. angustifolia is easily differentiated from E. umbellata by being mostly a tree, leaves greyish on both surfaces, narrower less than 1.5 cm broad, style glabrous, endocarp neither ribbed nor woolly. var orientalis being found in Western Himalayas is difficult to differentiate from E. umbellata in leaves being greenish above, and up to 3 cm broad like latter, but differentiated by glabrous style endocarp not ribbed, larger fruit 1.5 to 2 cm long (in E. umbellata leaves greenish above, up to 3 cm broad, style hairy, endocarp ribbed, fruit 8-9 mm long) 

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J.M. Garg

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Oct 1, 2019, 11:14:07 PM10/1/19
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Thanks, Singh ji,
Catalogue of life gives distribution of Elaeagnus angustifolia subsp. orientalis (L.) Sojak as Northern Caucasus, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Georgia [Caucasus], Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Afghanistan (Jawzjan / Sar-e-Pol, Kunar / Nuristan), Pakistan (Kurram, Waziristan, Swat), Pakistani Kashmir (Astor, Gilgit), Jammu & Kashmir (Ladakh), Costa Rica (I), China (Gansu, Nei Mongol), Siberia 

Narain Singh Chauhan

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Oct 2, 2019, 2:01:17 AM10/2/19
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Thanks for the details.
N. S .Chauhan
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