Begonia picta Sm. ???

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Saroj Kasaju

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Jul 13, 2017, 8:44:45 AM7/13/17
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Dear Members,

Location:  Lamahatta, Darjeeling, India 
Date: 22 May  2017
Altitude: 6800 ft.

Flowers are bigger  in size I have seen normally and 
flowering season not matching.


Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju
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Jul 14, 2017, 9:54:05 AM7/14/17
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Superb images, Saroj ji. 

Saroj Kasaju

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Thank you Mr. Garg !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Was it wild or Cultivated ?
I think looks different from images at Begonia picta Sm. Pl. check images in other threads also.
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This is from wild .

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Was it wild or Cultivated ?
I think looks different from images at Begonia picta Sm. Pl. check images in other threads also. - from me

This is from wild.
Thank you.
Saroj Kasaju 

 


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Thanks a lot, Mark ji.


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B. thomsonii

 

From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Sent: 22 March 2018 9:32 AM
To: Mark Hughes <MHu...@rbge.org.uk>


Subject: Fwd: Begonia picta Sm. ???

 

Dear Sir,

May I request for help if possible in this.



The Royal Botanic Garden Edinburgh is a charity registered in Scotland (No SC007983)

Saroj Kasaju

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Mar 22, 2018, 1:52:52 PM3/22/18
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Thank you Dr. Mark.

Dear Tabish : Please include in the FoI .

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

Saroj Kasaju

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Mar 23, 2018, 12:05:18 PM3/23/18
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Begonia thomsonii A.DC.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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May 1, 2018, 8:25:04 AM5/1/18
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Thanks a lot, Mark ji. 

On Tue 1 May, 2018, 5:41 PM Mark Hughes, <> wrote:

Hi

 

Just realised this plant is NOT B. thomsonii, sorry for the error, please correct on your website. I have to say I don’t know what it is!

Perhaps closer to B. difformis (B. aff. difformis)

Mark

 

From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Sent: 22 March 2018 9:32 AM
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Subject: Fwd: Begonia picta Sm. ???

 

Dear Sir,

May I request for help if possible in this.

 

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Saroj Kasaju

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May 1, 2018, 1:13:15 PM5/1/18
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Dear Mark,

Difficult for me. But I find images in 
web is not matching .

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

Saroj Kasaju

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May 1, 2018, 2:18:42 PM5/1/18
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Dear Dr.Mark,


I guess images of leaf are not matching.



Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 11:55 PM, Mark Hughes <MHu...@rbge.org.uk> wrote:
Which images?

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Yes I see. But....B. aff. difformis, with aff. meaning affinity. I don't think it is exactly the same as B. difformis, but it is close.


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Saroj Kasaju

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ID pending !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 12:59 AM Mark Hughes <MHu...@rbge.org.uk> wrote:
Yes I see. But....B. aff. difformis, with aff. meaning affinity. I don't think it is exactly the same as B. difformis, but it is close.

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Gurcharan Singh

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Jun 28, 2021, 11:07:24 AM6/28/21
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Forwarding for ID
Distributed as Begonia difformis ?
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Gurcharan Singh

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Jun 28, 2021, 11:30:11 AM6/28/21
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Forwarding for ID
Distributed as Begonia difformis ?
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Date: Thursday, July 13, 2017 at 6:14:45 PM UTC+5:30
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Saroj Kasaju

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Nov 15, 2021, 9:48:37 AM11/15/21
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Dear Dr. Mark,
ID is still pending. Does not match with B. thomsonii you have  recently 

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 6:29 PM
To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>


Dear Members,

Location:  Lamahatta, Darjeeling, India 
Date: 22 May  2017
Altitude: 6800 ft.

Flowers are bigger  in size I have seen normally and 
flowering season not matching.


Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 7:39 PM

To: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Cc: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>


Superb images, Saroj ji. 


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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 10:44 PM
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Cc: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>


Thank you Mr. Garg !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 5:11 PM

To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>
Cc: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Was it wild or Cultivated ?
I think looks different from images at Begonia picta Sm. Pl. check images in other threads also.
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With regards,
J.M.Garg

'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'

Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia. 

For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group (largest in the world- around 2800 members & 2,65,000 messages on 31.3.17) or Efloraofindia website (with a species database of more than 12,000 species & 2,50,000 images).

The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.

Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of India'.

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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 6:38 PM
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
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This is from wild .

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 4:27 PM

To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>
Cc: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Was it wild or Cultivated ?
I think looks different from images at Begonia picta Sm. Pl. check images in other threads also. - from me

This is from wild.
Thank you.
Saroj Kasaju 

 

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Date: 13 July 2017 at 18:14
Subject: Begonia picta Sm. ???
To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>, "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>


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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 4:07 PM

To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>
Cc: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Thanks a lot, Mark ji.

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From: Mark Hughes
Date: 22 March 2018 at 15:17
Subject: RE: Begonia picta Sm. ???
To: "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>


B. thomsonii

 

From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Sent: 22 March 2018 9:32 AM
To: Mark Hughes <MHu...@rbge.org.uk>


Subject: Fwd: Begonia picta Sm. ???

 

Dear Sir,

May I request for help if possible in this.


The Royal Botanic Garden Edinburgh is a charity registered in Scotland (No SC007983)

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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 11:37 PM
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Cc: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>, Tabish <tab...@gmail.com>


Thank you Dr. Mark.

Dear Tabish : Please include in the FoI .

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 9:50 PM
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Cc: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>, Tabish <tab...@gmail.com>


Begonia thomsonii A.DC.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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From: Mark Hughes <MHu...@rbge.org.uk>
Date: Tue, May 1, 2018 at 5:56 PM
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>, Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>


Hi

 

Just realised this plant is NOT B. thomsonii, sorry for the error, please correct on your website. I have to say I don’t know what it is!

Perhaps closer to B. difformis (B. aff. difformis)

Mark

 

From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Sent: 22 March 2018 9:32 AM
To: Mark Hughes <MHu...@rbge.org.uk>
Subject: Fwd: Begonia picta Sm. ???

 

Dear Sir,

May I request for help if possible in this.

 

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Date: 2 August 2017 at 16:12




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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, May 1, 2018 at 6:10 PM
To: Mark Hughes <MHu...@rbge.org.uk>
Cc: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>


Thanks a lot, Mark ji. 



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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, May 1, 2018 at 10:58 PM
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>, efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>
Cc: Mark Hughes <MHu...@rbge.org.uk>


Dear Mark,

Difficult for me. But I find images in 
web is not matching .

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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From: Mark Hughes <MHu...@rbge.org.uk>
Date: Tue, May 1, 2018 at 11:55 PM
To: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>


Which images?

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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2018 6:13:12 PM
To: J.M. Garg; efloraofindia
Cc: Mark Hughes
Subject: Re: Begonia picta Sm. ???
 


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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, May 2, 2018 at 12:03 AM
To: Mark Hughes <MHu...@rbge.org.uk>
Cc: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>


Dear Dr.Mark,


I guess images of leaf are not matching.



Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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From: Mark Hughes <MHu...@rbge.org.uk>
Date: Wed, May 2, 2018 at 12:59 AM
To: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Cc: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>


Yes I see. But....B. aff. difformis, with aff. meaning affinity. I don't think it is exactly the same as B. difformis, but it is close.

Mark Hughes (PhD) | Tropical Botanist (Begonia systematics) | Royal Botanic Garden Edinburgh
Phone: +44 (0)131 248 2893 | Mobile +44 (0)7981423758 | Fax: +44 (0)131 248 2901
Home page

From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2018 7:18:38 PM
To: Mark Hughes
Cc: efloraofindia; J.M. Garg
 


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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 9:09 PM
To: Mark Hughes <MHu...@rbge.org.uk>
Cc: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>


ID pending !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju



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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 12:17 PM
To: dipankar borah <dipankar...@gmail.com>, Dipankar Borah <dipanka...@rgu.ac.in>


This is the only one but ID not yet finalized!


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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 12:17 PM
To: dipankar borah <dipankar...@gmail.com>, Dipankar Borah <dipanka...@rgu.ac.in>




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From: Dipankar Borah <dipanka...@rgu.ac.in>
Date: Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 7:45 AM
To: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>


Ok Sirji, Thank you.
Best wishes and regards,
Dipankar Borah
Assistant Professor at Goalpara College,



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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 9:48 AM
To: Dipankar Borah <dipanka...@rgu.ac.in>


What do you say about the ID?
Thank you.
Saroj Kasaju
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Saroj Kasaju


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From: Dipankar Borah <dipanka...@rgu.ac.in>
Date: Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 7:47 AM
To: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>


Not much Ideas, but something near B.cathcartii
Best wishes and regards,
Dipankar Borah
Assistant Professor at Goalpara College,



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From: Gurcharan Singh <sing...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 8:52 PM
To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>


Forwarding for ID
Distributed as Begonia difformis ?
Group discussion at
On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 8:55:00 PM UTC+5:30 Saroj Kumar Kasaju wrote:
ID pending !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 12:59 AM Mark Hughes <MHu...@rbge.org.uk> wrote:
Yes I see. But....B. aff. difformis, with aff. meaning affinity. I don't think it is exactly the same as B. difformis, but it is close.

Mark Hughes (PhD) | Tropical Botanist (Begonia systematics) | Royal Botanic Garden Edinburgh
Phone: +44 (0)131 248 2893 | Mobile +44 (0)7981423758 | Fax: +44 (0)131 248 2901
Home page

From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>

Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2018 7:18:38 PM
To: Mark Hughes
Cc: efloraofindia; J.M. Garg
Subject: Re: Begonia picta Sm. ???
Dear Dr.Mark,


I guess images of leaf are not matching.



Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 11:55 PM, Mark Hughes <MHu...@rbge.org.uk> wrote:
Which images?

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Phone: +44 (0)131 248 2893 | Mobile +44 (0)7981423758 | Fax: +44 (0)131 248 2901
Home page

From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2018 6:13:12 PM
To: J.M. Garg; efloraofindia
Cc: Mark Hughes
Subject: Re: Begonia picta Sm. ???
 
Dear Mark,

Difficult for me. But I find images in 
web is not matching .

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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Nov 15, 2021, 10:24:06 AM11/15/21
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OK Dr. Mark !
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 9:06 PM Mark Hughes <MHu...@rbge.org.uk> wrote:

It is definiteyl not B. thomsonii, and doesn’t match anything from the region. Potentially new sp.


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