SK1536 25 Oct 2018

[Saroj Kasaju]

Dear Members 

Location:  Shivapuri National Park,Nepal 

Date: 25 August 2018

Elevation: 5800 ft.

Habit : Wild 

Not good quality due mobile click..

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

Some Cucurbitaceae member, you posted it earlier

https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/cl/cucurbitaceae

[Saroj Kasaju]

Ok Mr. Garg I shall check. Was it identified?

Thank you!

Saroj Kasaju

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Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

Yes, it was identified. 

[Saroj Kasaju]

Trichosanthes wallichiana (Ser.) Wight ??

http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=200022799 

https://www.google.com.np/search?biw=1093&bih=501&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=hBjTW7HkGMSEvQTJj5eQCg&q=Trichosanthes+wallichiana+&oq=Trichosanthes+wallichiana+&gs_l=img.12...166372.166372.0.167805.1.1.0.0.0.0.456.456.4-1.1.0....0...1c.1.64.img..0.0.0....0.Ib0EaX1GG70#

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Ushadi Micromini]

well

is pic 115208

the second picture

does it belong to this case?

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Usha di
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[Saroj Kasaju]

All images from the same plant Usha di !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Ushadi Micromini]

does not the four lobed leaf, symmetrically cut in the middle leaf bother you???

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Usha di
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[J.M. Garg]

Also check https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/cl/cucurbitaceae/trichosanthes/trichosanthes-tricuspidata

Leaves are quite variable. 

[Ushadi Micromini]

ok

but this much?

that leaf bothers me botanical id is thrown off into confusion

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irrelevant fact:  it reminds me of a romulan  knife or  weapon of aggression on Star Trek series and movies.

irrelevant,, but there you have it.

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Usha di
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[Saroj Kasaju]

I guess Mr. garg is right. It has so many fariable leaves.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Saroj ji and Ushadi 

[Saroj Kasaju]

Trichosanthes wallichiana Wight  ??

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

Pl. see discussions in Trichosanthes kirilowii for confirmation

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Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2018 at 16:42
Subject: SK1536 25 Oct 2018
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[J.M. Garg]

Pl. see discussions in Trichosanthes kirilowii for confirmation

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Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2018 at 16:42
Subject: SK1536 25 Oct 2018
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[Saroj Kasaju]

I guess it is not matching and not listeD IN NEPal as well.

Trichosanthes wallichiana Wight

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

Pl. go through my detailed comments in the Ashutosh ji's thread. 

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Your opinion about this Ashutosh Ji ?

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Ashutosh Sharma]

Respected  Saroj Kasaju ji, 

Trichosanthes wallichiana as well as Trichosanthes lepiniana (Involucraria lepiniana) both species are listed from Nepal. 

Please see the link

http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=133535

Both these species are closely related but leaves of T. lepiniana are comparitively smaller in size(13x15cm) and more shallowly 3-5 lobed. 

I think your plant can be Trichosanthes wallichiana but proper examining of the flowers, leaves and seeds is required in future for confirmation. 

Best regards 

Ashutosh Sharma 

[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you Ashutosh ji!

Saroj Kasaju

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Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Ashutosh ji.