SK519 13 MAY-2017:ID

Saroj Kasaju

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May 13, 2017, 10:16:22 AM5/13/17

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Dear Members,

Location: Thulo Phedi, Taplejung, Nepal

Date: 18 April 2017

Altitude: 10000 ft.

Gentiana ...???

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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J.M. Garg

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May 14, 2017, 8:06:15 AM5/14/17

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May be.

J.M. Garg

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May 22, 2017, 4:45:06 AM5/22/17

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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Gentiana species with comparative images in efi so far.

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May 31, 2017, 6:17:35 AM5/31/17

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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Gentiana species with comparative images in efi so far.

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Date: 13 May 2017 at 19:46
Subject: SK519 13 MAY-2017:ID
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Jun 9, 2017, 4:12:36 AM6/9/17

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Pl. check with images at Gentiana clarkei Kusn. & Gentiana hugelii Griseb.:

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Saroj Kasaju

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Jun 9, 2017, 10:24:12 AM6/9/17

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Dear Mr. Garg,

Looks like it is not listed in Nepal and not matching to both.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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Nov 18, 2017, 9:03:53 AM11/18/17

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Gentiana decemfida Buch.-Ham. ex D.Don ????

http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=242422574

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Nov 28, 2017, 1:53:24 AM11/28/17

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Does not matches with images at Gentiana decemfida

J.M. Garg

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Apr 12, 2018, 8:08:37 AM4/12/18

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Hi, Shabir ji,

May I request you for id of this one.

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Apr 13, 2018, 12:16:49 AM4/13/18

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Thanks, Shabir ji

On Thu 12 Apr, 2018, 11:26 PM Mohd Shabir, <shabi...@gmail.com> wrote:

If corolla is pink, plicae 2-cleft or triangular then check Gentiana rubicunda, if not then check Gentiana decemfida var. aprica.

Saroj Kasaju

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Apr 13, 2018, 1:05:04 PM4/13/18

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Dear Sabir Ji,

It is far off to reach the location again. As such,

not possible to see the flower color again. As

per google images it looks more close to

Gentiana rubicunda than the other one.

Expect your further view .

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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Apr 14, 2018, 6:03:04 AM4/14/18

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Dear Mr. Garg,

Can you help on this ?

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 9:14 AM, Mohd Shabir <shabi...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Saroj sir,
You can also check the online virtual herbarium for Gentiana rubicanda, also compare with the discription provided in flora of China.
Thank and regards,
Mohd Shabir

J.M. Garg

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May 3, 2018, 8:55:15 AM5/3/18

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To me looks different from images of Gentiana rubicunda at

http://frps.eflora.cn/frps/Gentiana%20rubicunda

http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=86290&flora_id=2

http://theflowerphotosite.com/sp/g94.html

http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2012Apr031333442629IRG27-March2012.pdf

https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/gentiana-rubicunda-franch/MwFD7gtxLfVURA?ms=%7B%22x%22%3A0.5000001927723919%2C%22y%22%3A0.4049536273741671%2C%22z%22%3A9%2C%22size%22%3A%7B%22width%22%3A1.5983412322274881%2C%22height%22%3A0.8098958333333334%7D%7D

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Saroj Kasaju

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Nov 25, 2018, 8:23:24 AM11/25/18

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Dear Shabir JI,

Could the above sp be identified with incomplete images?

Could it be Gentiana aperta ?

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, May 13, 2017 at 8:01 PM
To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

Dear Members,

Location: Thulo Phedi, Taplejung, Nepal

Date: 18 April 2017

Altitude: 10000 ft.

Gentiana ...???

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

Date: Sun, May 14, 2017 at 5:51 PM
To: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Cc: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>

May be.

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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

Date: Mon, May 22, 2017 at 2:29 PM

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Cc: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Gentiana species with comparative images in efi so far.

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With regards,
J.M.Garg

'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'

Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia.

For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group (largest in the world- around 2800 members & 2,65,000 messages on 31.3.17) or Efloraofindia website (with a species database of more than 12,000 species & 2,50,000 images).

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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

Date: Wed, May 31, 2017 at 4:02 PM

To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>
Cc: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Gentiana species with comparative images in efi so far.

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Date: 13 May 2017 at 19:46
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With regards,
J.M.Garg

'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'

Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia.

For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group (largest in the world- around 2800 members & 2,65,000 messages on 31.3.17) or Efloraofindia website (with a species database of more than 12,000 species & 2,50,000 images).

The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.

Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of India'.

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Date: Wed, May 31, 2017 at 9:28 PM
To: Maan Rokaya <rokay...@gmail.com>

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, May 13, 2017 at 8:01 PM
To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>, "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>

Dear Members,

Location: Thulo Phedi, Taplejung, Nepal

Date: 18 April 2017

Altitude: 10000 ft.

Gentiana ...???

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, May 14, 2017 at 5:51 PM
To: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Cc: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>

May be.

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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, May 22, 2017 at 2:29 PM

To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>
Cc: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Gentiana species with comparative images in efi so far.

--

With regards,
J.M.Garg

'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'

Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia.

For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group (largest in the world- around 2800 members & 2,65,000 messages on 31.3.17) or Efloraofindia website (with a species database of more than 12,000 species & 2,50,000 images).

The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.

Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of India'.

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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, May 31, 2017 at 4:02 PM

To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>
Cc: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Gentiana species with comparative images in efi so far.

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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: 13 May 2017 at 19:46
Subject: SK519 13 MAY-2017:ID
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With regards,
J.M.Garg

'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'

Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia.

For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group (largest in the world- around 2800 members & 2,65,000 messages on 31.3.17) or Efloraofindia website (with a species database of more than 12,000 species & 2,50,000 images).

The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.

Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of India'.

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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

Date: Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 1:57 PM

To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>
Cc: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>

Pl. check with images at Gentiana clarkei Kusn. & Gentiana hugelii Griseb.:

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Subject: Fwd: SK519 13 MAY-2017:ID
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Cc: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>

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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>

Date: Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 8:09 PM
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Cc: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>

Dear Mr. Garg,

Looks like it is not listed in Nepal and not matching to both.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>

Date: Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 7:48 PM
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Cc: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>

Gentiana decemfida Buch.-Ham. ex D.Don ????

http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=242422574

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

Date: Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 12:38 PM
To: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Cc: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>

Does not matches with images at Gentiana decemfida

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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

Date: Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 5:53 PM
To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>
Cc: shabir1610 <shabi...@gmail.com>, Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>

Hi, Shabir ji,

May I request you for id of this one.

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With regards,
J.M.Garg

'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'

Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia.

For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group (largest in the world- around 2975 members & 2,90,000 messages on 31.3.18) or Efloraofindia website (with a species database of more than 12,000 species & 3,00,000 images).

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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

Date: Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 10:01 AM
To: shabir1610 <shabi...@gmail.com>
Cc: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>, Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>

Thanks, Shabir ji

On Thu 12 Apr, 2018, 11:26 PM Mohd Shabir, <shabi...@gmail.com> wrote:

If corolla is pink, plicae 2-cleft or triangular then check Gentiana rubicunda, if not then check Gentiana decemfida var. aprica.

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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>

Date: Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 10:50 PM
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Cc: shabir1610 <shabi...@gmail.com>, efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>

Dear Sabir Ji,

It is far off to reach the location again. As such,

not possible to see the flower color again. As

per google images it looks more close to

Gentiana rubicunda than the other one.

Expect your further view .

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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From: Mohd Shabir <shabi...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 9:15 AM
To: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>

Dear Saroj sir,

You can also check the online virtual herbarium for Gentiana rubicanda, also compare with the discription provided in flora of China.

Thank and regards,

Mohd Shabir

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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>

Date: Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 3:47 PM
To: Mohd Shabir <shabi...@gmail.com>, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>, efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>

Dear Mr. Garg,

Can you help on this ?

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

Date: Thu, May 3, 2018 at 6:40 PM

To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>
Cc: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>

To me looks different from images of Gentiana rubicunda at

http://frps.eflora.cn/frps/Gentiana%20rubicunda

http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=86290&flora_id=2

http://theflowerphotosite.com/sp/g94.html

http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2012Apr031333442629IRG27-March2012.pdf

https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/gentiana-rubicunda-franch/MwFD7gtxLfVURA?ms=%7B%22x%22%3A0.5000001927723919%2C%22y%22%3A0.4049536273741671%2C%22z%22%3A9%2C%22size%22%3A%7B%22width%22%3A1.5983412322274881%2C%22height%22%3A0.8098958333333334%7D%7D

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J.M. Garg

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Dec 13, 2018, 7:30:10 AM12/13/18

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To me looks different from images at https://threatenedtaxa.org/index.php/JoTT/article/download/4233/4600/0

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J.M.Garg

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Gurcharan Singh

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Sep 28, 2021, 6:11:24 AM9/28/21

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Forwarding for ID

Distributed as Gentiana species- Thulo Phedi, Taplejung, Nepal

Group discussion at

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Gurcharan Singh

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Sep 28, 2021, 6:12:23 AM9/28/21

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Forwarding for ID

Distributed as Gentiana species- Thulo Phedi, Taplejung, Nepal

Group discussion at

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Saroj Kasaju

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Oct 28, 2022, 3:58:12 AM10/28/22

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Any opinion based on the attached image ?

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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J.M. Garg

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Oct 28, 2022, 4:03:24 AM10/28/22

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Oct 29, 2022, 2:00:51 AM10/29/22

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Thanks a lot, Shabir ji

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From: Mohd Shabir
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2022 at 10:25
Subject: Re: SK519 13 MAY-2017:ID
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

Seems Polymorphic of Gentiana pedicellata

Dr. Mohd Shabir

Department of Botany, Kargil Campus

University of Ladakh

Union Territory of Ladakh, INDIA

Pin: 194105, Phone no. +917051064981

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J.M. Garg

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Oct 30, 2022, 2:12:20 AM10/30/22

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What about Gentiana venusta (G.Don) Wall. ex Griseb. or Gentiana clarkei

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J.M. Garg

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Oct 30, 2022, 2:23:38 AM10/30/22

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Thanks, Shabir ji

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Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2022 at 11:46
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Definitly not sir.. Gentiana venusta is different so as G. Clarkei

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Saroj Kasaju

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Oct 30, 2022, 2:23:47 AM10/30/22

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I think there is no match for G. venusta but some similarity to G. clarkei,

however there seems to be no distribution for Nepal.

Thank you Mr. Garg !

Saroj Kasaju

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