small tree for id mm1 30012012

[Mohina Macker]

small tree in binsar wildlife sanctuary near almora, uttarakhand.

8000 ft altitude

it has white flowers, which were not in bloom as yet.

an identification would be very appreciated

regards

mohina macker

[mohina macker]

I forgot to add that it is caled tirnia locally
regards
mohina

>  DSCN3106a.jpg
> 234KViewDownload
>
>  DSCN3105a.jpg
> 205KViewDownload

[jmgarg1]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

I forgot to add that it is caled tirnia locally regards mohina

--

With regards,
J.M.Garg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1

'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise): http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.

For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group: http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more than 2015 members & 1,39,500 messages on 30/11/12) or Efloraofindia website: https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ (with a species database of more than 7500 species).

Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of India'. 

[jmgarg1]

A reply:

"Persea (Machilus) odoratissima probably" from Manj Chandran ji.

[mohina macker]

Many thanks for this as well. Will read about it during the weekend

regards

mohina  macker

[Ushadi Micromini]

Well, I think its a rhododendron...


usha di

PS
i may be wrong but I always thought Persea odoratissima was a tropical ... not a temperate zone high altitude plant?
correct me if I am wrong
please
====

--
 
 
 

--
Usha di
===========

[Ushadi Micromini]

Thanks, Manoj

good to know and add to the recesses of the brain ...
Usha di

On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 1:51 PM, Manoj Chandran <mach...@gmail.com> wrote:

Persea odorattissima is found in the Himalayas from the foothills upto the temperate zone. In the lower altitudes, it is found in cooler microclimates like north facing slopes, narrow valleys, close to perennial streams, etc. In higher altitudes, it is found in other habitats too, except south facing dry slopes.

--
Usha di
===========

[J.M. Garg]

Does not matches with images at Persea odoratissima (Nees) Kosterm.

May be some Actinodaphne species as per images herein.

--

With regards,
J.M.Garg

'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'

Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia. 

For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group (largest in the world- around 2800 members & 2,65,000 messages on 31.3.17) or Efloraofindia website (with a species database of more than 12,000 species & 2,50,000 images).

The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Manoj ji.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Manoj Chandran <mach...@gmail.com>
Date: 14 October 2017 at 19:38
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:105747] small tree for id mm1 30012012
To: "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>

The image in eflora of Persea odoratissima is in its flowering stage whereas the present image is only the vegetative bud stage. This bud grows into a vegetative shoot. During flowering, these buds though grows as a vegetative shoots, the leaves get reduced in size and all you see is the showy axillary panicles as found in the eflora image. This is typical of all Perseas. There is lot of variation in size, shape and texture of leaves of Persea odoratissima from location to location and season to season.

Actinodaphne has longer flexuous leaves and is not found in Binsar. The Forest Flora of Kumaon by Osmaston also does not record Actinodaphne in Kumaon. 

[J.M. Garg]

Hi, Mohina ji,

May I request you to pl. send high resolution images for proper id pl.

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Mohina Macker <mohina...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 at 18:56
Subject: [efloraofindia:105747] small tree for id mm1 30012012
To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>

--

With regards,
J.M.Garg

[Mohina Macker]

Dear Garg ji

many thanks for resurfacing this tree

attaching higher resolution images

regards

mohina

[Mohina Macker]

[Mohina Macker]

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

"Persea (Machilus) odoratissima probably" from Manj Chandran ji.

Does not matches with images at Persea odoratissima (Nees) Kosterm. May be some Actinodaphne species as per images herein. - from me

The image in eflora of Persea odoratissima is in its flowering stage whereas the present image is only the vegetative bud stage. This bud grows into a vegetative shoot. During flowering, these buds grow as a vegetative shoots, the leaves get reduced in size and all you see is the showy axillary panicles as found in the eflora image. This is typical of all Perseas. There is a lot of variation in size, shape and texture of leaves of Persea odoratissima from location to location and season to season. Actinodaphne has longer flexuous leaves and is not found in Binsar. The Forest Flora of Kumaon by Osmaston also does not record Actinodaphne in Kumaon.  -from Manoj ji.

--

With regards,
J.M.Garg

[J.M. Garg]

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Mohina Macker <mohina...@gmail.com>

Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2020 at 17:13
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:105747] small tree for id mm1 30012012
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Cc: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>

--

With regards,
J.M.Garg

[J.M. Garg]

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Mohina Macker <mohina...@gmail.com>

Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2020 at 17:14
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:105747] small tree for id mm1 30012012
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Cc: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>

--

With regards,
J.M.Garg

[Tapas Chakrabarty]

Molecular studies revealed that the genus Persea is restricted to tropical America. All the Asian species referred to this genus belong to Machilus. So, the Indian species of Persea are now Machilus.

[Mohina Macker]

Thank you for this information Tapas Ji

Sent from my iPad

On 05-Oct-2020, at 18:47, Tapas Chakrabarty <tcha...@gmail.com> wrote:



[Tapas Chakrabarty]

The verticillate leaves with perulate terminal buds point to Actinodaphne.

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks a lot, Tapas ji

--
With regards,
J. M. Garg

[Mohina Macker]

thank you Tapas ji

[J.M. Garg]

Tried with species listed in Checklist of Nepal, but could not find a match.

Does anybody know what species are listed in Uttarakhand?

--

With regards,
J.M.Garg

[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding for ID

Distributed as  Actinodaphne species- Binsar WS near Almora, Uttarakhand

Group discussion at

small tree for id mm1 30012012 (google.com)

[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding for ID

Distributed as  Actinodaphne species- Binsar WS near Almora, Uttarakhand

Group discussion at

small tree for id mm1 30012012 (google.com)

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: mohina macker <mohina...@gmail.com>
Date: Monday, January 30, 2012 at 6:55:57 PM UTC+5:30
Subject: small tree for id mm1 30012012
To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>