DV - 03JUL10 - 0318 :: ¿ Grewia helicterifolia ?

[Dinesh Valke]

Dear friends,
This large shrub looks similar to Grewia asiatica, ... but with the difference in flowers (my feeling) ... the striking reddish (or orange) hue is not seen in the centre around the inner base of the flower that is observed in G. asiatica ... also the flowers look larger comparatively.

ID please



Date/Time : July 3, 2010 at 3.18pm IST
Location Place : Lonavala ... Tungwadi near Pavana lake
Altitude : about 805 m (above mean sea level)
GPS : around 18°39'32.68"N, 73°28'5.16"E

Habitat : scrub forest on outskirts of village, at base of mountain ... Tung fort here.
Type : deciduous forest

Plant
Habit : large shrub with slender woody tomentose terete branches
Height : about 3 - 4 m
Length : - not a climber -

Leaves
Type : alternately arranged simple, with serrated margin
Shape : looks more to be lanceolate
Size : about 7 - 12 cm x 4 - 7 cm

Inflorescence
Type : axillary cluster of 2 - 3 flowers
Size : 2 -3 cm dia.

Flowers
Size : about 1.5 - 2 cm across
Colour : white, sepals fade to brownish-orange
Calyx : larger than petals, lending colour to the flower
Bracts : - no bracts -

Fruits
Type : drupe
Shape : do not know
Size : do not know
Seeds : do not know

Other Info

Fragrance : do not know
Pollinator : do not know
Uses : do not know

 

Regards.

[tanay bose]

This plant is Grewia asiatica for me kindly wait for others to respond , morphological variation in terms of color and size is quite common in plants
Tanay

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[shrikant ingalhalikar]

This would be G. abutilifolia. Regards, Shrikant

On Jul 8, 8:42 am, Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear friends,

> This large shrub looks similar to *Grewia asiatica*, ... but with the

> difference in flowers (my feeling) ... the striking reddish (or orange) hue
> is not seen in the centre around the inner base of the flower that is

> observed in *G. asiatica* ... also the flowers look larger comparatively.

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[Satish Phadke]

Hi Dinesh
Beautifully illustrated pictures.
I see following imp. characters here to call it Grewia abutilifolia
Leaves are more ovate and acuminate. Petals are much smaller than sepals.
It will be more  lanceolar in G.helicterifolia
(I have not seen both of these plants so far)
Dr Phadke

[Gurcharan Singh]

Resurfacing again for ID confirmation

Some earlier feedback

Tanay......................................Grewia asiatica

Shrikant ji................................G. abutifolia

Satish Phadke ji...........................I see following imp. characters here to call it Grewia abutilifolia

Leaves are more ovate and acuminate. Petals are much smaller than sepals.
It will be more  lanceolar in G.helicterifolia 

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Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

[satish pardeshi]

can i get some more info about the hairyness of the leaves, upper n lower surface.

it would be of help in identification

Regards

Satish Pardeshi

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Satish Pardeshi
Plant Taxonomist
Mumbai, Pune

[J.M. Garg]

Resurfacing again for ID confirmation
Some earlier feedback
Tanay......................................Grewia asiatica
Shrikant ji................................G. abutifolia
Satish Phadke ji...........................I see following imp. characters here to call it Grewia abutilifolia
Leaves are more ovate and acuminate. Petals are much smaller than sepals.
It will be more  lanceolar in G.helicterifolia

Satish Pardeshi.................can i get some more info about the hairyness of the leaves, upper n lower surface. it would be of help in identification

 

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Date: 8 July 2010 09:12
Subject: [efloraofindia:40506] DV - 03JUL10 - 0318 :: ¿ Grewia helicterifolia ?
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[Dinesh Valke]

... cannot recollect about the hairiness of the leaves, Satish (Pardeshi) ji.
Regards.

[J.M. Garg]

Resurfacing again for ID confirmation
Some earlier feedback
Tanay......................................Grewia asiatica
Shrikant ji................................G. abutifolia
Satish Phadke ji...........................I see following imp. characters here to call it Grewia abutilifolia
Leaves are more ovate and acuminate. Petals are much smaller than sepals.
It will be more  lanceolar in G.helicterifolia

Satish Pardeshi ji..................can i get some more info about the hairyness of the leaves, upper n lower surface. it would be of help in identification

Dinesh ji......................... cannot recollect about the hairiness of the leaves, Satish (Pardeshi) ji.

 

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From: Dinesh Valke <dinesh...@gmail.com>
Date: 8 July 2010 09:12
Subject: [efloraofindia:40506] DV - 03JUL10 - 0318 :: ¿ Grewia helicterifolia ?
To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>

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With regards,
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1
'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'

The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise): http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use them for free as per liberal licensing conditions attached with each image.

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Resurfacing again for ID confirmation
Some earlier feedback
Tanay......................................Grewia asiatica
Shrikant ji................................G. abutifolia
Satish Phadke ji...........................I see following imp. characters here to call it Grewia abutilifolia
Leaves are more ovate and acuminate. Petals are much smaller than sepals.
It will be more  lanceolar in G.helicterifolia 

Satish Pardeshi ji..................can i get some more info about the hairyness of the leaves, upper n lower surface. it would be of help in identification

Dinesh ji......................... cannot recollect about the hairiness of the leaves, Satish (Pardeshi) ji.

-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

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From: Dinesh Valke <dinesh...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 8:42 PM
Subject: [efloraofindia:40506] DV - 03JUL10 - 0318 :: ¿ Grewia helicterifolia ?
To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>

[Yazdy Palia]

Possibly Grevia Stolzii, Please check the link
http://www.google.co.in/search?q=Grewia+stolzii+pictures&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&client=firefox-a&rlz=1R1GGGL_en___IN364
Regards
Yazdy.

[Gurcharan Singh]

Resurfacing again for ID confirmation
Some earlier feedback
Tanay......................................Grewia asiatica
Shrikant ji................................G. abutifolia
Satish Phadke ji...........................I see following imp. characters here to call it Grewia abutilifolia
Leaves are more ovate and acuminate. Petals are much smaller than sepals.
It will be more  lanceolar in G.helicterifolia 

Satish Pardeshi ji..................can i get some more info about the hairyness of the leaves, upper n lower surface. it would be of help in identification

Dinesh ji......................... cannot recollect about the hairiness of the leaves, Satish (Pardeshi) ji.

Yazdy ji..............................Possibly Grevia Stolzii, Please check the link
http://www.google.co.in/search?q=Grewia+stolzii+pictures&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&client=firefox-a&rlz=1R1GGGL_en___IN364

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Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

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Date: Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 8:42 PM
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