Native and non native Shirish

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satish phadke

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Mar 19, 2009, 11:20:31 AM3/19/09
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Both are flowering at present.Native and non native Shirish
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Albizia Lebek2.jpg
Rain tree.jpg
Albizia Lebek1.jpg
Rain tree1.jpg

Rakesh Biswas

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Mar 19, 2009, 11:44:28 AM3/19/09
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Isn't rain tree also known as the Saman tree? Is the Shirish the same as the Saman?
 
rakesh

Saurabh Sawant

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Mar 19, 2009, 12:46:36 PM3/19/09
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Shirish is Albizia lebek.

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J.M. Garg

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Mar 20, 2009, 9:15:55 AM3/20/09
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Wonderful shots, Satish ji. Rakesh ji, Rain Tree (Samanea saman) is also called Vilaiti Shirish or Saman. See from Indiantreepix Database:
Samanea saman (syn. Pithecolobium saman, Mimosa saman, Calliandra saman, Acasia propinquce, Inga cinerea) Mimosaceae Vilaiti Siris,  Rain tree, Monkey pod, Cenizaro, Saman or Cow tamarind  I have records o its flowering in March & August to Oct. in Kolkata. Beginning to flower (22/2/08) in Bangalore as per Poonam ji. Few early flowers being seen now a days (26/2/08) as per Satish ji in Pune. Flowering in the JVPD Scheme/Andheri, Mumbai- 31/3/08- Tejal ji. Flowering observed in Pune- April first fortnight- Satish ji. Beautiful Trees & Shrubs of Calcutta by Sh. R.K. Chakraverty & S.K.Jain states that it starts flowering from early spring (Feb.- March) and continues spordically up to late Mansoon (September). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samanea_saman Vilaiti Siris/ Rain Tree (Samanea saman) - indiantreepix | Google Groups Jungle Myna basking at Vilaiti Siris/ Rain tree (Samanea saman) - indiantreepix | Google Groups SAMANEA SAMAN - RAIN TREE. Is this rain tree? - indiantreepix | Google Groups


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satish phadke

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Mar 20, 2009, 11:31:57 AM3/20/09
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The reason for posting these images for those who don't know..............
The flowers are very much similar except the colour.
The green one is our own native Albizia lebbeck(Shirish) which is fragrant and has beautiful smell whereas the red one though looks beautiful lacks the fragrance.
The leaves of both are quite similar but those of Rain tree(Pithecolobium saman;Syn. Samanea saman often called as Vilayati Shirish) are glossy.
The pods of both are entirely different. Albizia has pale yellow  coloured ones while rain tree has dark brownish black woody pods.
Albizia lebbeck is native to India with a lot of ecological importance and should be planted more commonly than the non native Rain tree (Native of tropical America now distributed worldwide)which is commonly planted roadside.
Satish
I have written the spelling Albizia lebbeck is taken from Flora of Maharashtra by BSI as I found different spellings at some places.

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subrata

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Mar 21, 2009, 8:05:10 AM3/21/09
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Thaks to Dr. Phadke & Garg ji for enlightening elaboration.My question
is :
Of these two which is most commonly found in India ? Regards,
S. Mahapatra

On Mar 20, 8:31 pm, satish phadke <phadke.sat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The reason for posting these images for those who don't know..............
> The flowers are very much similar except the colour.
> The green one is our own native *Albizia lebbeck*(Shirish) which is fragrant
> and has beautiful smell whereas the red one though looks beautiful lacks the
> fragrance.
> The leaves of both are quite similar but those of Rain tree(*Pithecolobium
> saman;Syn. Samanea saman* often called as *Vilayati Shirish*) are glossy.
> The pods of both are entirely different. Albizia has pale yellow  coloured
> ones while rain tree has dark brownish black woody pods.
> *Albizia lebbeck* is native to India with a lot of ecological importance and
> should be planted more commonly than the non native Rain tree (Native of
> tropical America now distributed worldwide)which is commonly planted
> roadside.
> Satish
> I have written the spelling* Albizia lebbeck* is taken from Flora of
> Maharashtra by BSI as I found different spellings at some places.
>
> 2009/3/19 satish phadke <phadke.sat...@gmail.com>

J.M. Garg

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Mar 21, 2009, 10:08:10 AM3/21/09
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Hi,
Subrata ji,
I think it depend on the area. I found Samea saman as more common in Kolkata.

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Swagat

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Mar 21, 2009, 11:08:05 AM3/21/09
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Hi all,
 
I have heard about some other species also....
 
1) Albizia odoratissima - रान शिरीष / काळा शिरीष
2) Albizia mollis - लाल शिरीष
3) Albizia procera - श्‍वेत शिरीष
 
Would like to know more about it.
 
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Anand Kumar Bhatt

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Mar 22, 2009, 5:44:09 AM3/22/09
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I read somewhere that rain tree is known by this name because if you stand in its shade, the honey keeps  on dripping. Whereas I thought that because it belongs to humid heavy rainfall areas, the shade must be dripping with water from the pinnate leaves!
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