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J.M. Garg

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Nov 8, 2021, 11:43:23 PM11/8/21
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Thanks, Bimal ji

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Attaching three images of a small wild plant for identification please.
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J.M. Garg

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Nov 15, 2021, 6:05:42 AM11/15/21
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Any idea about the family or genus?


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Attaching three images of a small wild plant for identification please.


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surajit koley

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Nov 15, 2021, 7:26:56 AM11/15/21
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No idea, Sir.

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Tapas Chakrabarty

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Nov 15, 2021, 7:49:12 AM11/15/21
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Might be Ficus. Bimal da's inbox is bouncing back.

Saroj Kasaju

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Nov 15, 2021, 9:40:42 AM11/15/21
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May not be ficus Tapas Da ?
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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Tapas Chakrabarty

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Nov 15, 2021, 9:42:07 AM11/15/21
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Okay Saroj ji.

girish kumar ellezhuthil

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Nov 16, 2021, 2:59:16 AM11/16/21
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May be Ficus heterophylla....?

J.M. Garg

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Nov 16, 2021, 3:19:21 AM11/16/21
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Thanks, Girish ji


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Saroj Kasaju

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Nov 16, 2021, 3:24:27 AM11/16/21
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F. heterophylla fruit. Please compare with red circled image from mail 
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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J.M. Garg

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Nov 23, 2021, 1:38:44 AM11/23/21
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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Might be Ficus. - from Tapas ji 

May not be ficus Tapas Da ?
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju 

Okay Saroj ji.- from Tapas ji 

May be Ficus heterophylla....?- from Girish ji 

F. heterophylla fruit. Please compare with red circled image from mail 
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju 

 

 

Identity 60 a.jpg
Identity 60 b.jpg
Identity 60 c.jpg

J.M. Garg

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Nov 28, 2021, 5:52:56 AM11/28/21
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J.M. Garg

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Nov 28, 2021, 5:53:52 AM11/28/21
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I tried but not getting convinced as per images at Ficus heterophylla
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J.M. Garg

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Dec 2, 2021, 5:58:39 AM12/2/21
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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Might be Ficus. - from Tapas ji 

May not be ficus Tapas Da ?
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju 

Okay Saroj ji.- from Tapas ji 

May be Ficus heterophylla....?- from Girish ji 

F. heterophylla fruit. Please compare with red circled image from mail 
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju 

I tried but not getting convinced as per images at Ficus heterophylla- from me 

 

Identity 60 a.jpg
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Identity 60 c.jpg

surajit koley

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Dec 2, 2021, 9:18:36 AM12/2/21
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I too think this is no Ficus, looks like the species bears true fruits. Somewhat resembles Phyllanthus of Euphorbiaceae. But, then I am not sure either!

Thank you
Regards
surajit


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J.M. Garg

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Dec 14, 2021, 1:15:00 AM12/14/21
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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Might be Ficus. - from Tapas ji 

May not be ficus Tapas Da ?
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju 

Okay Saroj ji.- from Tapas ji 

May be Ficus heterophylla....?- from Girish ji 

F. heterophylla fruit. Please compare with red circled image from mail 
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju 

I tried but not getting convinced as per images at Ficus heterophylla 

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I too think this is no Ficus, looks like the species bears true fruits. Somewhat resembles Phyllanthus of Euphorbiaceae. But, then I am not sure either!
Thank you
Regards

surajit 

Identity 60 a.jpg
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Identity 60 c.jpg

J.M. Garg

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Dec 14, 2021, 8:39:30 AM12/14/21
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Thanks a lot, Lalithamba ji


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bridelia sp???

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J.M. Garg

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Dec 14, 2021, 8:40:33 AM12/14/21
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Thanks, Tapas ji


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Lalthamba ji,
I think yes.

Tapas Chakrabarty

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Dec 14, 2021, 3:15:20 PM12/14/21
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Finally!! Thanks Lalithamba ji,
This is Bridelia sikkimensis or very near to it.
Regards,
Tapas.

J.M. Garg

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Dec 15, 2021, 7:41:13 PM12/15/21
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Thanks, Giby ji


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I think it is a Ficus.
If the plant is still accessible, please cut open the 'fruit' and confirm it.

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J.M. Garg

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Dec 20, 2021, 9:56:23 AM12/20/21
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This should be Bridelia tomentosa Blume, please check for this species.
Leaves simple, not compound, fruits in axillary, leaves entire, leaf-venations appearing percurrent.
Kind regards,
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Tapas Chakrabarty

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Dec 20, 2021, 11:19:34 AM12/20/21
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Now, following the lead by Lalithamba ji, all lines are converging into Bridelia. However, this cannot be B. tomentosa, even var. glabrifolia, because the tertiary nerves are very prominent on the upper surface of the leaves and the drupes
 are neither depressed, nor bilobed. I am still suggesting this to be close to B. sikkimensis and may even represent a novelty!

J.M. Garg

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Dec 21, 2021, 1:03:33 AM12/21/21
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Thanks, Varun ji, for your feedback.

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Dear Sir,

As per images lateral nerves of leaves terminating directly at margins and are craspedodromous (B. tomentosa).

Whereas in B. sikkimensis lateral nerves not terminating directly at margins and are either brochidodromous or semicraspedodromous.

 

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Tapas Chakrabarty

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Dec 21, 2021, 7:14:50 AM12/21/21
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Thank Varun ji,
For your sharp observations. The images are of low resolution and I myself tried but failed to determine the ending of the lateral nerves. I have already emphasized the need for further studies in this case.
Best,
Tapas.

GOPAL SINGH Rawat

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Jan 9, 2022, 6:43:41 PMJan 9
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Looks like some Bridelia (Euphorbiaceae)

GS Rawat
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J.M. Garg

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Jan 9, 2022, 7:40:16 PMJan 9
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Thanks a lot, Rawat ji.
Identified as Bridelia tomentosa Blume

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