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Curcuma decipiens Dalzell

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Nitin Kawthankar

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Jun 20, 2023, 11:32:43 AM6/20/23
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Date- 10/06/2023.
Location- Pal, Vengurla, Sindhudurg, MH.
(Lat. 15.84, Long. 73.67).

Habitat- wild, coconut plantation.
Plant Habit- rhizomatous herb.
Rhizome- single, with tubers, lemon grass like odour.
Root tubers- many, ovoid, white inside.
Leaves- broadly ovate, no distinct odour.
Inflorescence- lateral, arising after leaves.
Coma bracts- many, deep purple or white-purple.
Flowers- funnel-shaped, deep purple.

Distinguishing Characters:
Leaves: without odour; Flowers & coma bracts: deep purple.
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J.M. Garg

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Jun 20, 2023, 12:20:18 PM6/20/23
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Nitin Kawthankar

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Jun 20, 2023, 2:02:10 PM6/20/23
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Date- 20/06/2023.

Location- Pal, Vengurla, Sindhudurg, MH.
(Lat. 15.84, Long. 73.67).

Habitat- wild, coconut plantation.
Plant Habit- rhizomatous herb.
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J.M. Garg

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Jun 21, 2023, 2:17:39 AM6/21/23
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Thanks a lot, Sabu ji

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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2023 at 10:55
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:449607] Curcuma decipiens Dalzell
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Curcuma inodora
Thanking you,
Sincerely yours,
M. Sabu Ph. D., FNA, FASc.
CSIR-Emeritus Scientist, Malabar Botanical Garden & IPS
Calicut, 673014.
Formerly Professor & Head
Department of Botany
University of Calicut
Kerala, 673 635, India
Phone: 91--4952431545
Mobile: 91- 09447636333

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J.M. Garg

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Jun 21, 2023, 2:18:11 AM6/21/23
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Thanks, Nitin ji

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J.M. Garg

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Jun 22, 2023, 11:21:27 PM6/22/23
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Thanks, Nitin ji.
Requesting Sabu ji to pl. help to differentiate these two.

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Date: Fri, 23 Jun, 2023, 08:35
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Thank you sir for ID.
Will you please give the ID key to differentiate C. inodora from C. decipiens.
As per description both species are variable then how to separate them?
Please help.🙏 Thank you.

J.M. Garg

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Jun 23, 2023, 2:03:10 AM6/23/23
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Thanks a lot, Sabu ji

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Highly variable. Curcuma inodora is treated as synonym of C. decipiens since the latter has priority over the former.

Thanking you,
Sincerely yours,
M. Sabu Ph. D., FNA, FASc.
CSIR-Emeritus Scientist, Malabar Botanical Garden & IPS
Calicut, 673014.
Formerly Professor & Head
Department of Botany
University of Calicut
Kerala, 673 635, India
Phone: 91--4952431545
Mobile: 91- 09447636333

Website: www.gingersofindia.com
https://botany.uoc.ac.in/index.php/sunojkumar?id=58



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Nitin Kawthankar

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Jun 23, 2023, 2:20:48 PM6/23/23
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Thank you so much Garg ji and Sabu ji for confirming the ID.

Nitin Kawthankar

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Aug 28, 2023, 6:20:37 AM8/28/23
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Dear Garg sir & Sabu sir

I checked on POWO, both these names (Curcuma decipiens & C. inodora) are accepted as different plants.

Sabu sir could you please put some more light on this. Can you plz provide some references for these synonyms.

Thank you

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Nitin Kawthankar

J.M. Garg

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Aug 28, 2023, 1:15:54 PM8/28/23
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J.M. Garg

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Sep 7, 2023, 6:54:08 AM9/7/23
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Hope Sabu ji throws more light on it. 
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J.M. Garg

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Sep 11, 2023, 7:35:28 AM9/11/23
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J.M. Garg

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Sep 11, 2023, 11:39:29 AM9/11/23
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Thanks a lot, Sabu ji

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I am also kept them as different but after some more studies  Iam planning to merge these two. It will take some more time.  

Thanking you,
Sincerely yours,
M. Sabu Ph. D., FNA, FASc.
CSIR-Emeritus Scientist, Malabar Botanical Garden & IPS
Calicut, 673014.
Formerly Professor & Head
Department of Botany
University of Calicut
Kerala, 673 635, India
Phone: 91--4952431545
Mobile: 91- 09447636333

Website: www.gingersofindia.com
https://botany.uoc.ac.in/index.php/sunojkumar?id=58



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