Fw: Re: [efloraofindia:33441] Re: Grewia asiatica 2

[Neil Soares]

Hi,  Am forwarding it again to the group as some of my previous mails have gone missing.                                N.     On Tue, 4/27/10, Neil Soares <drneil...@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Neil Soares <drneil...@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:33420] Re: Grewia asiatica 2 To: "mani nair" <mani....@gmail.com> Cc: "efloraofindia" <indian...@googlegroups.com> Date: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 6:33 PM Hi,  Sending some of my photographs of G.tiliaefolia.                     Regards,                       Neil Soares.         On Tue, 4/27/10, mani nair <mani....@gmail.com> wrote: From: mani nair <mani....@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:33420] Re: Grewia asiatica To: "shrikant ingalhalikar" <le...@rediffmail.com> Cc: "efloraofindia" <indian...@googlegroups.com> Date: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 2:10 PM Where this tree is found in Mumbai? Regards, Mani. On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 9:33 AM, shrikant ingalhalikar <le...@rediffmail.com> wrote: Dear Satish Phadke, G. tiliifolia is a larger tree with smaller leaves compared to G. asiatica. Your second set of pictures show G. asiatica twig because the stipules are linear-lanceolate, they are not leafy and auricled. Perhaps pics of G. tiliifolia stipules will sort the issue. Regards, Shrikant On Apr 26, 10:49 pm, Satish Phadke <phadke.sat...@gmail.com> wrote: > Sorry again. > My interpretation seems to be exactly opposite. Is the plant depicted in the > picture *G tiliifolia* then? Can somebody please elaborate? > BSI Mah flora also says they are foliaceous in G.tiliifolia. > > On 26 April 2010 23:12, Satish Phadke <phadke.sat...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Sorry for sending bigger size image. > > > On 26 April 2010 23:10, Satish Phadke <phadke.sat...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> Pursuing the search about the differentiating characters I checked for the > >> stipules of the plant today. They are foliaceous in G.asiatica which is > >> clearly seen in the attached picture while they are linear lanceolate in > >> G.tiliifolia. > >> Attaching some pictures showing it and part of the key from Cooke's flora. > >> My earlier pictures do not show them clearly. > >> I would like to request Prashant ji to show some picture of G.tiliifolia > >> with stipules if he has any such picture in his collection. > >> The glands near the petals are difficult to recognise from the available > >> pictures. > >> Regards > >> Dr Phadke Satish > > >> On 15 April 2010 20:33, Satish Phadke <phadke.sat...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>> This small tree is also flowering on Vetal Tekdi(Pune) at present. > >>> I hope the ID is correct. There are many plants in the area some are 6 > >>> feet while the largest are 12-15 feet high or even may be larger. > >>> I was told this same tree by different IDs by many including some > >>> botanists,often as Grewia tilifolia and Grewia asiatica. > >>> Requesting for correct ID(Of course if possible by looking at the visible > >>> characters in the picture) > >>> Leaf size biggest noted is 18-20cm. Flower size 1 cm. > >>> Dr Phadke Satish > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. > To post to this group, send email to indian...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to indiantreepi...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To post to this group, send email to indian...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to indiantreepi...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To post to this group, send email to indian...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to indiantreepi...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en.

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[Gurcharan Singh]

The two are really similar. Brandis (Indian trees) who saw a lot of variation in the species mentioned these differences between the two:

G. asiatica: Leaves broad-cordate, more or less tomentose beneath, stipules linear, buds cylindrical or clavate, flowers large, fruits large

G. tiliaefolia: leaves large, very oblique, nearly glabrous or hoary beneath, stipules leafy, falcate, auriculate.

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