VOF Week: Herb for id from Valley of Flowers

[Nidhan Singh]

Dear All,
This one is I think similar observation as Dinesh Ji have
uploaded....yet to be resolved..I am uploading mine pics..hope to get
ideas..

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Regards,

Dr. Nidhan Singh
Department of Botany
I.B. (PG) College
Panipat-132103 Haryana
Ph.: 09416371227

[Dinesh Valke]

Yes Nidhan ji, all aspects are ditto.
Regards.
Dinesh

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Perhaps an example of (if it turns out true) how better and well illustrated photographs help in identification. 

I hope Prenanthes violaefolia.

My herbarium from Kashmir

https://indiantreepix.googlegroups.com/attach/2f3518596054e644/Asteraceae-Prenanthes-violaefolia-DSC01985.jpg?view=1&part=5 

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[Dinesh Valke]

Thank you very much Nidhan ji for sharing this plant and many thanks to Gurcharan ji for the ID.
Regards.
Dinesh

[Dinesh Valke]

Nidhan ji, Gurcharan ji, ... would like to know what are two structures that we see.
Am I mistaking the pinkish to be flowers, and the green to be fruits ?

Regards.

[ushadi Micromini]

Dinesh, my questions exactly, I was thinking the same as I looked at the picture... that was the scientific mind...
but my funny side was thinking ....  whats all those praying mantis doing ??? some acrobatics or was it a bunch of green locust like insect, each attached to the twig.....  ready to fly off...  after eating the pink stuff...

:)...

so Gurcharanji heres to your answers... thanks

Usha di

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Usha di
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[manoj chandran]

Green is the flower bud. The pink ones are bracts.

[Gurcharan Singh]

On further consideration I think there is some thing wrong with the above identification, as also identification of my Herbarium specimen from Kashmir. The leaves ar4e different from true Prenanthes violaefolia (now Cicerbita violaefolia).

     The search is still on for true ID

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Dr. Gurcharan Singh

Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089

http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ 
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

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[Dinesh Valke]

Many thanks Manoj ji for correcting my thoughts.

Yes, Gurcharan ji. On seeing Prenanthes violaefolia at FOI, I got the feeling it could not be ID of this plant.

Regards.
Dinesh

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[jmgarg1]

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:      

 

Yes Nidhan ji, all aspects are ditto. Regards. Dinesh

Perhaps an example of (if it turns out true) how better and well illustrated photographs help in identification. I hope Prenanthes violaefolia.

My herbarium from Kashmir https://indiantreepix.googlegroups.com/attach/2f3518596054e644/Asteraceae-Prenanthes-violaefolia-DSC01985.jpg?view=1&part=5 -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh

Nidhan ji, Gurcharan ji, ... would like to know what are two structures that we see. Am I mistaking the pinkish to be flowers, and the green to be fruits ?- from Dinesh ji.
Green is the flower bud. The pink ones are bracts.- from Manoj Chandran ji.
On further consideration I think there is some thing wrong with the above identification, as also identification of my Herbarium specimen from Kashmir. The leaves are different from true Prenanthes violaefolia (now Cicerbita violaefolia).

The search is still on for true ID

-- Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Many thanks Manoj ji for correcting my thoughts.

Yes, Gurcharan ji. On seeing Prenanthes violaefolia at FOI, I got the feeling it could not be ID of this plant. Regards. Dinesh

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[J.M. Garg]

If the buds are Ok, it may be Prenanthes brunoniana as the leaves are highly variable & match with the leaves posted by Ashwini ji on 8.10.16 in another thread.

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[Tabish]

This is Parasenecio quinquelobus. Frank Smythe too collected it from Valley of Flowers in 1937.

   Tabish

[Nidhan Singh]

Thanks a lot Tabish Ji, Dinesh Ji and Sunit Ji for resolving the id..

Regards,

Dr. Nidhan Singh

Associate Professor