Cascading whorls of unprecedental joy...| Orchid ID -20Aug2011AR02

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raghu ananth

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20-Aug-2011, 9:12:59 am20/08/11
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Monsoon Magic - Cascading whorls of unprecedental joy...
(Orchidaceae 
related to Pholidota imbricata ?

Date/Time-27 Jul 2011 12:10
Location- Place, Altitude, GPS- Bhagamandala, Coorg, Karnataka, 1535 meter
Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-Wild, Western ghats, 
Quite common herb on the  forested tree barks.
Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-Herb, Epiphytic-Non Parasitic
Height/Length-approx - flower cluster  + leaf length=70-80cms
Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size- Shape -Elliptic,elongated, Single Leaf on top of the bulb, 40-50 cms
Inflorescence Type/ Size-Pendulous flowers
Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-Small-cluster of flowers, 1.5cms, Dirty Brown/White/Pink
Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds-  Pseudo bulbs-5 
Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.- Feeding Ants inside the flower

Regards
Raghu
DSC_6028 Bulb.jpg
DSC_6026 Flower Cluster.jpg
DSC_6027 FlowerCloseup.jpg
DSC_6029 Herb.jpg

Dr Pankaj Kumar

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20-Aug-2011, 9:59:14 am20/08/11
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Thanks for sharing.
This is Pholidota imbricata.
Pankaj
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Smilax004

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20-Aug-2011, 11:34:12 am20/08/11
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Yes, Pholidota pallida of Orchidaceae family.



Regards,
Giby

Gurcharan Singh

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20-Aug-2011, 12:00:17 pm20/08/11
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I hope the two are distinct species

Is it P. imbricata (Pankaj ji, Raghu ji?) or P. pallida (Giby ji).?



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Pankaj Kumar

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20-Aug-2011, 12:12:02 pm20/08/11
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Pholidota pallida and Pholidota imbricata are very much different from
each other. The lateral sepals are connate at the base in Pholidota
pallida. To me this is P. imbricata as in many of the closeups you can
actually see them separate.
Gibs, please, look at the flower on the lower right hand side of the
stalk. Both lateral sepals are very much separate!! Even the bulbs are
much elongated and glabrous in P. pallida.
Pankaj

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Pankaj Kumar

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20-Aug-2011, 12:12:52 pm20/08/11
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I was talking about the third image for flower closeup.
Pankaj

raghu ananth

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20-Aug-2011, 12:16:48 pm20/08/11
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The names Pholidota pallida  & Pholidota imbricata seems synonymous.
Reference

Common Name: The Pale Pholidota

SynonymsEdit Synonyms sectionEdit

  1. Coelogyne calceata Rchb.f. 1862
  2. Coelogyne pallida (Lindl.) Rchb.f. 1862
  3. Pholidota imbricata var. sessilis Hook.f. 1890
  4. Pholidota pallida var. sessilis (Hook.f.) P.K.Sarkar 1984
  5. Pholidota schlechteri Gagnep. 1931
  6. Pholidota yunnanensis Schltr. 1924
  7. Pholidota yunpeensis Hu 1925

Regards

Raghu


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Pankaj Kumar

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20-Aug-2011, 12:20:25 pm20/08/11
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Please check again Raghu sir
Your link is not saying them as synonyms.
Pankaj

Giby Kuriakose

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21-Aug-2011, 12:22:01 am21/08/11
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I was using both name as synonyms (I shall provide reference for this later). 
But, now, I am sure that they are not synonymous.   

Thanks to Singh Ji and Pankaj for clarification.

Further, I think, the identification by Pankaj Ji is correct and please ignore my id. 

I think the picture in Dinesh Ji's Photo stream in the following link would also be P.imbricata.  

If flower picture is available then it would be easy to confirm the same. 




Regards,
Giby  


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