R.idaeus ?

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J.M. Garg

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Mar 12, 2021, 9:31:36โ€ฏAM3/12/21
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From: Sunit Singh Chauhan <botanis...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar, 2021, 7:51 pm
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respected sir good evening. Please check the attached images of Rubus species, for me this is R.idaeus.

Captured at Doda JK
altitude 1600m approx.
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J.M. Garg

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Mar 12, 2021, 9:32:19โ€ฏAM3/12/21
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Mar 16, 2021, 6:20:57โ€ฏAM3/16/21
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Hi, Sunit ji,
Pl. post habit and leaf images.
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J.M. Garg

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Mar 17, 2021, 1:35:12โ€ฏAM3/17/21
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Thanks, Sunit ji


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From: Sunit Singh Chauhan <botanis...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar, 2021, 10:24 am
Subject: Re: R.idaeus ?
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here I'm attaching a complete image of species, thank you.

On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 8:18 PM Sunit Singh Chauhan <botanis...@gmail.com> wrote:
Okay sir
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J.M. Garg

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Mar 22, 2021, 2:00:41โ€ฏAM3/22/21
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Rubus idaeusย L.ย does not have distribution in India as per POWO.
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J.M. Garg

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Mar 22, 2021, 2:11:16โ€ฏAM3/22/21
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It isย Rubus niveusย Thunb.ย as per comparative images atย Rubus
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Sunit Singh Chauhan

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Mar 22, 2021, 2:38:18โ€ฏAM3/22/21
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Dear sir, there is difference in leaves, and fruits. But let me collect flowers of same this year, may be flowers will help.

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J.M. Garg

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Mar 22, 2021, 4:07:43โ€ฏAM3/22/21
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I do not think so.


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Sunit Singh Chauhan

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Mar 22, 2021, 5:04:12โ€ฏAM3/22/21
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Okay sir, thank you.

Sunit Singh Chauhan

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Jul 6, 2023, 1:49:41โ€ฏAM7/6/23
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Dear Sir in Rubus niveusย  Leaves are imparipinnate, (5โ€“)7โ€“9(โ€“11)-foliolate, and here it is typically trifoliate. please consider it for discussion again.

J.M. Garg

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Jul 16, 2023, 12:11:42โ€ฏPM7/16/23
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As per
Flowers Pink or red:
ย ย  Leaflets 3.
ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  Large rambling shrubs: flowers solitary or in pairs โ€ฆย Rubus foliolosusย D. Don (synonym forย Rubus niveusย Thunb.)
ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  Low procumbent shrubs; flowers in short terminal racemes โ€ฆย Rubus foliolosusย var.ย racemosusย (Hook.f.) B.D. Naithani (synonym forย Rubus niveusย Thunb.)

ย ย ย Leaflets 5-7, upper sometimes with 3 leaflets โ€ฆย Rubus niveusย Thun.

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