Fwd: Inclusion of Camonea umbellata (L.) A.R.Simões & Staples Syn. Merremia umbellata Convolvulaceae मोतीया

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J.M. Garg

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Nov 16, 2021, 10:45:46 AM11/16/21
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Date: Tue, 16 Nov, 2021, 6:49 pm
Subject: Inclusion of Camonea umbellata (L.) A.R.Simões & Staples Syn. Merremia umbellata Convolvulaceae मोतीया
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Dear Sir, sending photographs of Camonea umbellata (L.) A.R.Simões & Staples
Syn. Merremia umbellata
Convolvulaceae
मोतीया 
(Hogvine, Yellow merremia)
11.11.2021
Collected from Armori -Gadchiroli District. Large climber growing along the bank of river.
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J.M. Garg

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Nov 17, 2021, 12:30:19 AM11/17/21
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From: Dilipkumar Undirwade <dcku...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Nov, 2021, 10:32 am
Subject: Re: Inclusion of Camonea umbellata (L.) A.R.Simões & Staples Syn. Merremia umbellata Convolvulaceae मोतीया
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>


Dear sir,
the specimens present on the EFI entitled as Camonea umbellata are actually of Camonea pilosa found in WG, images sent  by me is C.umbellata is new to india.
plz. verify and include it. 
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J.M. Garg

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Nov 23, 2021, 3:11:44 AM11/23/21
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Thanks, Dilip Kumar ji.
What is the difference between the two?
I could not figure it out from the net.
Lucid Central says "A second taxon is present in NT and CYP, now called Camonea umbellata, native to Africa and introduced to Australia. It was previously named Merremia umbellata subsp. umbellata. Camonea umbellata in the broad sense (including Camonea pilosa) is the subject of further taxonomic study."

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J.M. Garg

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Nov 23, 2021, 8:47:03 AM11/23/21
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On Tue, 23 Nov, 2021, 7:02 pm Dilipkumar Undirwade, <dcku...@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes sir you are very correctly pointed out, Merremia umbellata subsp. Umbellata is now Camonea umbellata. Native to Africa and introduced to various parts of world including India.
Previously the plant collected from various regions of India basically from WG  and A & N was not the Camonea umbellata as it is having very fever flowers in inflorescence as compared to the specimen collected by me. After molecular analysis ( Paper By Dr. S.R.YADAV SIR) it is found that species reported in india was actually was Camonea pilosa and not camonea umbellata. 
I have checked the available  Harberium online too, which proves that my specimen is Camonea umbellata. 
Regards and thanks sir.

J.M. Garg

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Nov 23, 2021, 8:48:55 AM11/23/21
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Date: Tue, 23 Nov, 2021, 7:11 pm
Subject: Re: Inclusion of Camonea umbellata (L.) A.R.Simões & Staples Syn. Merremia umbellata Convolvulaceae मोतीया
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Sir I have gone through the Lucid Central. The description given is of Camonea pilosa. They also mentioned its synonyms. Where they doesn't included there Camonea umbellata subsp. Umbellata. 
For taxonomic dimensions sharing my photo plate. Will clear the basic difference in these two sp.
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J.M. Garg

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Nov 29, 2021, 1:38:13 AM11/29/21
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Thanks, Dilip ji,
Can I see the following paper pl.?:

After molecular analysis ( Paper By Dr. S.R.YADAV SIR) it is found that species reported in india was actually was Camonea pilosa and not camonea umbellata.

In no. of posts at Merremia umbellata, there are many flowers also in the inflorescence.  
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J.M. Garg

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Dec 3, 2021, 3:47:27 AM12/3/21
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From: Dilipkumar Undirwade <dcku...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2021 at 12:26
Subject: Re: Inclusion of Camonea umbellata (L.) A.R.Simões & Staples Syn. Merremia umbellata Convolvulaceae मोतीया
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Sir plz see page no. 8.

On Mon, 29 Nov, 2021, 12:21 pm Dilipkumar Undirwade, <dcku...@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes sir, will share it.


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Dec 3, 2021, 3:49:41 AM12/3/21
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Further reply from Dilip ji:
Sir, photos were sent to Staple and they were identified as merremia umbellata as an introduced sp.
Recently I talked to Dr.Vinod simple sir (who is working on revision of Convolvulaceae of India) regarding its identity and it was identified as C.Umbellata. He did a paper on it entitled "Camonea umbellata new record for Indian mainland". Which is In review process.
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