Arecaceae, Araceae, Zingiberaceae Fortnight 1-14 Aug 2014: Alpinia malaccensis (Zingiberaceae) from Uttarakhand_DSR_10

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D.S Rawat

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Aug 11, 2014, 8:01:50 AM8/11/14
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Alpinia malaccensis (Burm.f.) Roscoe (Zingiberaceae) is a planted species in Pantnagar.

 

Images include a flower split open, fruits (mature and immature) and flowering.

 

DSRawat Pantnagar


Department of Biological Sciences, G.B. Pant University of Agriculture & Technology Pantnagar-263 145 Uttarakhand, INDIA

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Nidhan Singh

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Aug 11, 2014, 8:10:51 AM8/11/14
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Excellent presentation Rawat Ji..thanks for sharing this beauty...

Prabhu kumar Km

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Aug 12, 2014, 6:23:22 AM8/12/14
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Dear Rawatji,
It is not A. malaccensis, seems to be A. smithiae 
or A. zerumbet


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D.S Rawat

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Aug 12, 2014, 6:51:19 AM8/12/14
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Thank you Prabhu Kumar Ji for suggesting the alternative ID.
As I remember A.smithiae is a new species reported from South India and mentioned as endemic to the area. I was looking for the paper in which it was described by Dr Sabu and Mangaly in 1991 but could not get it.
If you have the copy of it please send so that I may verify with my specimens.
DSRawat Pantnagar 


On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 3:53:22 PM UTC+5:30, Prabhu kumar KM wrote:
Dear Rawatji,
It is not A. malaccensis, seems to be A. smithiae 
or A. zerumbet
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 5:31 PM, D.S Rawat <drdsrawat...@gmail.com> wrote:

Alpinia malaccensis (Burm.f.) Roscoe (Zingiberaceae) is a planted species in Pantnagar.

 

Images include a flower split open, fruits (mature and immature) and flowering.

 

DSRawat Pantnagar


Department of Biological Sciences, G.B. Pant University of Agriculture & Technology Pantnagar-263 145 Uttarakhand, INDIA

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J.M. Garg

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Aug 18, 2014, 4:19:36 AM8/18/14
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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

It is not A. malaccensis, seems to be A. smithiae 
or A. zerumbet    --
Prabhu Kumar K M
                                   

Thank you Prabhu Kumar Ji for suggesting the alternative ID.

As I remember A.smithiae is a new species reported from South India and mentioned as endemic to the area. I was looking for the paper in which it was described by Dr Sabu and Mangaly in 1991 but could not get it.
If you have the copy of it please send so that I may verify with my specimens.
DSRawat Pantnagar  

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J.M. Garg

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Aug 18, 2014, 7:26:47 AM8/18/14
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A reply:
"It is Alpinia zerumbet.

Thanks for reading this mail.
With best regards
Dr.M.Sabu
Professor
Taxonomy and Floristics Division
Department of Botany
Calicut University
Kerala 673635, India."
 
Thanks, Dr. Sabu.

D.S Rawat

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Aug 18, 2014, 11:50:45 AM8/18/14
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Alpinia zerumbet usually has pendent spikes and capsules are distinctly ridged which is not the case here.
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J.M. Garg

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Aug 25, 2014, 6:52:29 AM8/25/14
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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

It is not A. malaccensis, seems to be A. smithiae or A. zerumbet --
Prabhu Kumar K M
 
    
                                
 

 

Thank you Prabhu Kumar Ji for suggesting the alternative ID.
As I remember A.smithiae is a new species reported from South India and mentioned as endemic to the area. I was looking for the paper in which it was described by Dr Sabu and Mangaly in 1991 but could not get it.
If you have the copy of it please send so that I may verify with my specimens.
DSRawat Pantnagar   
 
 
 

 

It is Alpinia zerumbet.


Thanks for reading this mail.
With best regards
Dr.M.Sabu 

Alpinia zerumbet usually has pendent spikes and capsules are distinctly ridged which is not the case here.

DSRawat Pantnagar 

 

 



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Gurcharan Singh

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Forwarding again for ID

J.M. Garg

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Thanks a lot, Sabu ji.

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Alpinia zerumbet only.
Thanking you,
Sincerely yours,
M. Sabu Ph. D., FNA, FASc.
CSIR-Emeritus Scientist, Malabar Botanical Garden & IPS
Calicut, 673014.
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D.S Rawat

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Oct 8, 2020, 2:38:27 AM10/8/20
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After repeated confirmation as A. zerumbet by Dr Sabu, the expert of the Family Zingiberaceae in SE Asia, I am taking it as A. zerumbet.
Thank you Dr Sabu for re-examination.

DSRawat Pantnagar
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