Today's orchid no - 3 NSD 26

[Nayan Singh]

Friends,

Photographed on 30-9-09 in Satpura tiger Reserve

I think this is some Habenaria sp

Please id it 

thanks in advance

Nayan
 

N.S.Dungriyal IFS
Chief Conservator of Forests
and Field Director
Satpura Tiger Reserve Hoshangabad
M.P.
09424792100

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[Dr. Pankaj Kumar]

Dear Sir,

Please check the smell of the flowers. If it has a very foul smell
then it could be Habenaria gibsoni var. foetida
otherwise,
Habenaria gibsoni var. gibsoni
This is how i was able to differentiate these two varieties.

The other difference between the two varieties accoding to Misra (2004)
* are confusing to me but you may try ur luck:
Upper segment of petal MUCH LONGER than the lower one; mid segment of
the lip EQUAL OR SLIGHTLY LONGER than the lateral segments - H. g.
var. gibsoni
Upper segment of petal SLIGHTLY LONGER than the lower one; mid segment
of the lip MUCH LONGER than the lateral segments - H. g. var. foetida

Regards
Pankaj

* Misra, S. 2004. Orchids of Orissa. Bishen Singh Mahendra Pal SIngh,
Dehradun, pp. 170 - 235 (Habenaria).

[Dr Gurcharan Singh]

When do you sleep, Pankaj ji and Nayan ji

You once identified my plant at nearly 2 at night

Good for botany!

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[Nayan Singh]

Thanks Gurcharan ji

thanks for your remark

we are nocturnal sp

thanks again

Nayan
 

N.S.Dungriyal IFS
Chief Conservator of Forests
and Field Director
Satpura Tiger Reserve Hoshangabad
M.P.
09424792100

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[JM Garg]

Habenaria gibsonii var. foetida Blatt. & McCann as per discussions at Identification???????     

[Pankaj Kumar]

No 

This should be Habenaria gibsonii var. gibsonii.

Thanks a lot for sharing.

Pankaj

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Pankaj ji.

What is the difference you see here between the two varieties?

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[Pankaj Kumar]

I have seen Habenaria gibsonii var. foetida from India to Laos in wild and so I know few things about appearance which cant be explained. So easy way is  anything that doesnt fit in that will be var. gibsonii.

As such, the petals are bifurcate in both but the length of upper lobe is longer in var. foetida and shorter in var. gibsonii. Var. gibsonii is a bit off white to yellow to even orange and they have good smell. Var. foetida is white to green coloured.

Thanks and regards

Pankaj

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks a lot, Pankaj ji

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