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prasanna gogate

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Mar 9, 2011, 9:41:27 PM3/9/11
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THIS IS AN UNDERGROWTH IN EVERGREEN FOREST.PHOTO AT SAWANTWADI IN DECEMBER.
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Gurcharan Singh

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Mar 9, 2011, 10:22:55 PM3/9/11
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Pudji Widodo

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Mar 10, 2011, 4:35:23 AM3/10/11
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It looks like Asplenium nidus

Pudji Widodo
Fakultas Biologi Universitas Jenderal Soedirman
PURWOKERTO 53122 INDONESIA

Dr Pankaj Kumar

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Mar 10, 2011, 4:56:53 AM3/10/11
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Dear Mr. Prassana
Please provide details as per posting guidelines. You have been
requested again and again but you are not following.
Pankaj

Pankaj Kumar

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Mar 10, 2011, 1:27:25 PM3/10/11
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Here are the guidelines which are available on the following link:
https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en

This not only helps us help you in a better way, but also helps us
maintaining a proper database of all your as well as other's
contributions of plant pics.
I hope you will follow these for postings from now onwards.
HAPPY POSTING.
Regards
Pankaj


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Efloraofindia helps members to interact with each other about our
trees, shrubs, herbs etc. in our surroundings & elsewhere in India,
mainly by posting pictures, information, identity etc. This also
serves as a database for future reference. We also compile the data
posted on the group (called Efloraofindia Database, currently having
around 4200 plants on 30/9/10- which is like an e-book), which one
must see under file section at home page
http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. Feel free to post your
questions, observations, notes etc. on Indian Flora.
Please observe the following guidelines while posting:
1. Maximum 3 posts per day for Identification requests/ confirmations-
with one plant per mail, with different subject lines only are
allowed. Pl. follow the following format for Identification requests/
confirmations:
Date/Time-
Location- Place, Altitude, GPS-
Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-
Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-
Height/Length-
Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size-
Inflorescence Type/ Size-
Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-
Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds-
Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.-
Pl. copy it & keep it on desktop in a Word document so that you can
copy & paste it
& fill in the information (& provide pictures for these) to the extent
possible while requesting for Id. This is compulsory for Id requests.
2. No restriction of format & number on postings for posting of
identified plants.
3. Please post pictures as attachments, discuss the subjects etc.
relating to Indian Flora as an e-mail to
indian...@googlegroups.com, which is the main focus of this group.
Photographs of flowers for identification should have a few well
developed leaves, and if possible also fruits. Avoid posting anything
which violates copyrights of others. Only individual members will be
responsible & not the group for any copyright violations. Try to
furnish the inf. yourself (if possible) or from Wikipedia stating its
link or provide suitable links etc.
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pictures posted. It is useful to add your name and location. Please
try to identify yourself while posting. Mistakes are encouraged over
stating nothing, for better learning/ understanding. No one is
infallible.
5. Each attachment max.150 KB. But one can have many attachments to
illustrate different aspects of a tree/plant. But one has to be
cautious not to post unnecessary pictures as far as possible. One has
to re-size one's pictures to say max. upto 800 by 600 pixels at 72 DPI
with quality settings of say 5 to 10 to bring it upto a max. of 150 KB
in Photoshop as per group guidelines for posting. Links are to be
avoided as far as possible as attachments are allowed. To re-size in
Microsoft Photo-editor, which is available in most Window based
computers: Open your picture in Microsoft Photo Editor. Select
Image--> Resize & select width of say 800 pixels under width units
(height sets itself), Click on OK. Select File--> Save as, choose file
name as … & click on save button. Now file is ready for web use. It is
much reduced in size. If, it’s still more than 150 KB, it can be
reduced within 150 Kb by selected width of say 700 pixels or less
instead of 800 pixels. Similar procedure can be followed in other
picture processing software.
6. Separate flowers/ plants etc. to be posted in a separate mail for
better response, linking, avoiding confusion etc.
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possible or like "Is this Bombax species?" or "Is it Semal?" etc.
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clicking on ‘Reply’). If the reply is only of interest to the author
or is personal, then use ‘Reply’, otherwise it has to be 'Reply to
all'. Plain 'Thank you'/ 'Welcome' mails has to be sent by clicking at
'Reply' only & not by 'Reply to all'. All members are requested to
either ‘Reply’, 'Reply to all' or ‘Forward’ at the bottom of the mail
(Don't use other methods), so that links/ messages/ mails don’t break
off. Due to this we are not able to link messages properly on
Efloraofindia Database along with other problems.
9. Numbering for Id requests- DDMMYY+ Initials+ Sl.No. (if more than
one on same day) to avoid any confusion, clubbing of mails with same
subject line on the Google group, better linking in Efloraofindia
database etc. For example if I post an Id request, it will be like
''For Id 060408JM1’’, 060408JM2 etc., in case it is not like ''Is it
Bombax ceiba (Semal)?'' (this is much better & recommended). One may
post two to three Id requests a day for better attention & feedback.
10. Members are requested to forward Id. requests/ confirmation mails
again in case there is no response for about 3 days on the group.
11. Members are encouraged to write about this group or request
membership to other e-groups, laymen as well as experts etc. to make
this group more interesting & responsive. They can join directly by
clicking (Home page) on
http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix?hl=en or sending a
request to me at jmg...@gmail.com.
12. One may announce Tree/ Bird/ Butterfly walks or programmes locally
or outside etc., availability of pertinent publications, software,
conferences, launch of new website, important web resource - but no
commercial advertising is allowed. Photographic issues related to
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a) Click on that particular link in the Efloraofindia Database or
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J.M. Garg

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Jun 20, 2011, 9:00:57 AM6/20/11
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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

“It looks like Asplenium nidus

Pudji Widodo”

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Vijayadas D

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Jun 20, 2011, 9:11:46 AM6/20/11
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Pteris sps , but hard to identify sps name in this stage  , may be P.cretica or allied sps.
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J.M. Garg

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Jun 21, 2011, 12:38:38 AM6/21/11
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A reply:
"Looks like a juvenile plant of the Pteris cretica group.
S P Khullar"
 
Thanks, Dr. Khullar.

J.M. Garg

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Jun 21, 2011, 1:48:59 AM6/21/11
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A reply:
"A. nidus is not present in South India, from where it has been widely misreported in error for A. phyllitidis.  But both those species have large, simple fronds.  This plant in your photo has a palmately dissect frond.
     It is actually a member of the P. pellucida group, described from and probably endemic to South India (?plus Lanka), as P. venusta Kunze.  It is cytologically and slightly morphologically distinct from P. pellucida itself, neither species has teeth at the margin.
     Best wishes,
             Chris Fraser-Jenkins, Kathmandu."

Thanks, Dr. Chris.

J.M. Garg

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Jun 21, 2011, 1:50:29 AM6/21/11
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A reply:
"It's actually P. venusta Kunze, a semi-cryptic S. Indian cytotype of P. pellucida, entire margins.
Chris F.-J."

J.M. Garg

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Jun 22, 2011, 5:07:34 AM6/22/11
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A further reply:
"Thanks for sending the mail. It is Pteris sp.  Not Asplenium nidus. May be a better ID will be possible with a mature plant and bothside pic.
With warm regards
Mrinal Kanti Bhattacharya,
Associate Professor,
Department of Botany and Biotechnology,
Karimganj College, Karimganj, Assam"

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