SK1321 26 JUL 2018

[Saroj Kasaju]

Dear Members,

Location: Balaju, Raniban,Nepal

Altitude : 4800 ft.

Date: 7 June 2018

Habit : Wild

I found this on the forest floor. Leaf was dry but the

fruit was young . I tried to pull apart then fruit from 

the leaf but it was not detaching.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Saroj ji 

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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

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These specimens may belong to a Cryptocarya sp. [Lauraceae].

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Cryptocarya amygdalina Nees  ??

This is the only one listed in Nepal but the 

elevation, fruiting period does not match 

according to the link. And, surprisingly 

the seed / fruit  is found stuck to the leaf 

which could not be detached with normal pull.

http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=200008738

Thank you.

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[Ushadi Micromini]

trees of lauraceae can possibly ??? produce resin

could this be attached by an insect

could this be really an insect gall?

it seems not, seems to be ???fruit????

but, still

question remains

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[Tapas Chakrabarty]

Noted all the comments.

This could be Cryptocarya amygdalina provided the fruits are placed upside down!

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[Ushadi Micromini]

tapasda

do you have any pictures of or bw drawings of this

upside down fruits?

thanks
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[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you Taps Da!

Wondering how did the fruit stuck on the leaf.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Ushadi Micromini]

saroj ji

foc says it fruits in aug

may be that would be before climate change?

thats why 

thats why its sooooo very important to put a complete date down in any publication

that includes forwards preface and introductions etc in books and monographs

and cases presented here

so in future correlation can be done with historical average temp prevailing then.

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[Tapas Chakrabarty]

The efi page on Cryptocarya is almost zero so far possibly due to the fact that the trees are usually tall and difficult to collect.

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Dear Usha di ,

It is difficult for a lay person like me to keep 

all tracks as suggested by you since I am 

not a botanist !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you Tapas Da ! 

Thank you.

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[Ushadi Micromini]

ooooh

its so easy with digital photography

your submissions have dates already 

exif data has dates on your flickr account too

thats all one needs

and just like you might keep your employees attendance register

its the same thing

i am not a botanist either

data generating as to dates and attendance or their absence

or

dates and flowering are the same thing!!!  

usha di

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[Saroj Kasaju]

हा! हा ! I stopped using Flickr.

Thank you

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[Ushadi Micromini]

why

you were doing soooo well

your pictures were truly appreciated by many

usha di

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Fruit size was less than 1 cm.

Thank you.

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Thank you.

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[J.M. Garg]

Feedback from another thread:

Your photo from Nepal may be a leaf gall.- from Tapas ji.

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[Tapas Chakrabarty]

Please compare with my post on Cryptocarya amygdalina.

[Ushadi Micromini]

Tapasda

so do you think this "fruit like"" structure is really a fruit? of Cryptocarya amygdalina.

ragards

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[Tapas Chakrabarty]

It is quite puzzling. In Lauraceae galls similar to fruits are abundant.

[Ushadi Micromini]

so would have needed a careful dissection

or a bisection at least ?

to reveal the innards?

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[Tapas Chakrabarty]

Better to ignore.

[Ushadi Micromini]

I agree with you. 

if its wasp, it will bite the one who opens it .

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[Saroj Kasaju]

I agree tapas Da ! Better to ignore !

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding for ID

Distributed as  Cryptocarya amygdalina ?

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding for ID

Distributed as  Cryptocarya amygdalina ?

Group discussion at

SK1321 26 JUL 2018 (google.com)