Request for identification ABUTILON species

[satish pardeshi]

Hello all
i found this plant at Gautala Autrum Ghat wildlife Sanctuary, Jalgaon
on hill slopes among bush. in October 2009.
the plant is about 1 metre height. a malvaceae member, most probably
Abutilon species. whole plant is velvetty tomentose. the lower surface
of leaves is whitish.
open flowers could not be photographed as i feel it opens in evening.
please help in ID.

regards
Satish Pardeshi

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance pl.

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Not Abutilon atleast. Epicalyx are clearly seen.

 

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[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance pl.

Earlier relevant feedback:

“Not Abutilon atleast. Epicalyx are clearly seen.
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[Gurcharan Singh]

Resurfacing again for ID

Earlier feedback by me

“Not Abutilon atleast. Epicalyx are clearly seen

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On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 12:36 PM, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

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[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance pl.

Earlier relevant feedback:

“Not Abutilon atleast. Epicalyx are clearly seen.
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[J.M. Garg]

Further feedback:

"this is long awaited id.
i again checked flora of Maharashtra--the description of plant points
towards Hibiscus, Abutilon. but could not get through.

Regard
Satish Pardeshi"

[R. Vijayasankar]

Hi,

I checked BSI's Flora of India (Vol. 3, 1993) and the keys lead me to identify this as Melhania magnifolia. But i am not sure of the id. Flowering season is said to be December. It is distributed in PJ, RJ, GJ & MH only. 

Pl check it once again and tell us the confirmed id. It was originally published in JBNHS 26: 228. 1918.

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[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise pl.

Earlier relevant feedback:

“Hi,

I checked BSI's Flora of India (Vol. 3, 1993) and the keys lead me to identify this as Melhania magnifolia. But i am not sure of the id. Flowering season is said to be December. It is distributed in PJ, RJ, GJ & MH only.

Pl check it once again and tell us the confirmed id. It was originally published in JBNHS 26: 228. 1918.” from Vijayasankar ji.

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[J.M. Garg]

A reply:

"Petals are persistent, cymes are terminal, bracts ovate, acuminate and shorter than sepals. These characters lead to Melhania tomentosa Stocks, ex Mast. But this is not reported in Maharashtra as yet. Regards, Shrikant"

[tanay bose]

Dear all,

i am also supporting Garg ji it is Melhania tomentosa Stocks, ex Mast ..........because

1. leaf morphology and characters.
2. inflorescence.
3. Floral characters.

Regards,

Tanay 

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[satish pardeshi]

Thanx Garg ji, Tanay ji, Gurucharansingh ji, Vijay ji, Shrikant ji and all others for helping in the identification of this long awaited and discussed plant.

it is Melhania futteyporensis Munro ex Masters in Hook.f.,Fl.Brit.Ind. 1:373. 1874.

i also found its reference in Maharashtra on this following site

 

http://www.maharashtra.gov.in/english/gazetteer/Vansampada/PDF/81-1.pdf

Thanx and Regards

Satish Pardeshi

On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 8:29 PM, tanay bose <tanay...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear satish Ji,

please see in this link you will get a bit of information..................

http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=250065529

 

Regards,

Tanay

On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 8:03 PM, satish pardeshi <satishp...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Tanay ji

can  you provide some literature for Melhania tomentosa Stocks, ex Mast.

as  i am not getting any links to this plant and right now dont have any access to books and flora.

Regards

Satish Pardeshi

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[tanay bose]

Dear Satish ji,

The link shows a Maharastra Govt. Checklist of plant . there is no description nor any picture in it. Many time several plant are left out accidently while preparing a checklist. or due very small population number they are left out as they were not observed [accidentally] by the authority. Hence I will kindly ask you to again confirm you plant with better evidential sources.

 

Regards

Tanay

[Gurcharan Singh]

Dear Tanay

I have not been able to comprehend the point of disagreement. The plant was uploaded as Abutilon. I disputed this on the basis of presence of epicalyx. Vijayasankar ji first identified it as Melhania (tentatively M. magnolifolia). Shrikant ji identified it as M. tomentosa, which you supported. You had also provided link to Eflora of Pakistan which regards M. tomentosa as synonym of M. futteyporensis, which Satish ji rightly concluded.

  Pl enlighten me if I have missed anything.

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[tanay bose]

Dear all,

 I am extremly sorry for the comment ....it was my personal mistake that i missed out the synonym while going through the eflora of Pakistan  .....i ask for excuse from Satish ji for the mistake........... and again thank Gurchran ji for pointing out my mistake and making cordial efforts to correct my mistake ......thank you again sir.....very very thank you.

 

regards

Tanay

[satish pardeshi]

Hello all

I have gone through many links such as GRIN, Flora of Pakistan, Pankaj Oudhia's website, etc and it was difficult to find Melhania tomentosa. then came to know this accepted name as M. futteyporensis Munro ex Masters. 

[satish pardeshi]

Hello all

I have gone through many links such as GRIN, Flora of Pakistan, Pankaj Oudhia's website, etc and it was difficult to find Melhania tomentosa, then came to know this accepted name as M. futteyporensis Munro ex Masters.  I mentioned this name as many times after identification  of the correct species we give thanx to all experts for providing clues, but a third person who go through the links may not come to know  what is the final conclusion, hence i mentioned the identified name.

I was pretty excited by the fact that no mention of Melhania in Cook flora and Flora of Maharashtra. it became stronger  when Shrikant ji mentioned abt Melhania not being reported from Maharashtra. but after further searching i found its reference in Maharashtra gazette, hence i felt it necessary to bring to all that it is reported from Maharashtra.

I am very happy that Tanay ji is taking so much interest in the group activities and i well come and congratulate him on becoming Moderator of the group. i feel that discussions will become more interesting and plants will get identified wihin short time by such members. 

Regards

Satish Pardeshi

Consultant, Taxonomist

CDAC, Pune

[tanay bose]

thank you satish ji for your humble reciprocation.

Regards

Tanay