Fabaceae (Faboideae) Fortnight :: Medicago for id :: Panipat :: NS OCT 89/89

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Nidhan Singh

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Oct 21, 2015, 7:10:53 AM10/21/15
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Dear All,

This is a herb from Panipat..
Please suggest id..

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Dr. Nidhan Singh
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I.B. (PG) College
Panipat-132103 Haryana
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J.M. Garg

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Oct 29, 2015, 2:34:49 AM10/29/15
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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Medicago species so far in efi 


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Oct 30, 2015, 12:32:16 AM10/30/15
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From: surajit koley <surajitno...@gmail.com>
Date: 29 October 2015 at 23:15
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:234129] Fabaceae (Faboideae) Fortnight :: Medicago for id :: Panipat :: NS OCT 89/89
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Cc: Nidhan Singh <nidhans...@gmail.com>


Please check if Medicago orthoceras (Kar. & Kir.) Trautv. can be found in India or that region.

J.M. Garg

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Nov 5, 2015, 4:03:27 AM11/5/15
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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Medicago species so far in efi 

Please check if Medicago orthoceras (Kar. & Kir.) Trautv. can be found in India or that region. - from Surajit ji.


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Nov 5, 2015, 9:56:54 PM11/5/15
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J.M. Garg

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Apr 2, 2017, 2:33:21 AM4/2/17
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To me also it appears close as per illustration at

As per book link (2011), collections from India assigned to M. orthoceras (which see) appear to be M. polyceratia, but I have not identified them as latter species, as additional study is necessary. Pl. see high resolution herbarium specimen at

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J.M. Garg

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Apr 3, 2017, 12:29:23 AM4/3/17
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Doubtful ID. Could be any other species as well. 

D.S Rawat

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Apr 7, 2017, 8:16:33 AM4/7/17
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Please check for Trigonella species. T. monantha/ T. incisa etc. Flora of Pakistan will be helpful.

DSRawat Pantnagar

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eflorapantnagar displaying wild flora of Pantnagar

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J.M. Garg

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Apr 7, 2017, 11:29:22 PM4/7/17
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Thanks, Mahadewara ji.

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In continuation of my previous mail, I wish to state that  the flowers have a resemblance to Trigonella.   Could it be any wild  species of Trigonella ?

J.M. Garg

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Apr 19, 2017, 8:36:31 AM4/19/17
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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Medicago species so far in efi  

Please check if Medicago orthoceras (Kar. & Kir.) Trautv. can be found in India or that region. - from Surajit ji. 

I have nothing to add, except

Surajit

To me also it appears close as per illustration at
As per book link (2011), collections from India assigned to M. orthoceras (which see) appear to be M. polyceratia, but I have not identified them as latter species, as additional study is necessary. Pl. see high resolution herbarium specimen at

Doubtful ID. Could be any other species as well.- from Mahadeswara ji  

Please check for Trigonella species. T. monantha/ T. incisa etc. Flora of Pakistan will be helpful.

DSRawat Pantnagar 

In continuation of my previous mail, I wish to state that  the flowers have a resemblance to Trigonella.   Could it be any wild  species of Trigonella ? - from Mahadeswara ji


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Gurcharan Singh

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Sep 24, 2021, 6:14:15 AM9/24/21
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Forwarding for ID
Distributed as  Medicago species- Panipat
The three suggested species are closely related and were in fact placed under the same species Trigonella polycerata L. in FBI, which is now considered a different species and Indian wrongly applied to Indian plants. More so all three, formerly under Trigonella are now placed under Medicago, M. incisa merged with M. monantha. M. monantha differs in longer fruit (4-10 cm long) as against less than 3 cm in M. orthoceras (2-3 cm). On that count M. monantha looks better ID.
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Gurcharan Singh

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Sep 24, 2021, 6:15:20 AM9/24/21
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Forwarding for ID
Distributed as  Medicago species- Panipat
The three suggested species are closely related and were in fact placed under the same species Trigonella polycerata L. in FBI, which is now considered a different species and Indian wrongly applied to Indian plants. More so all three, formerly under Trigonella are now placed under Medicago, M. incisa merged with M. monantha. M. monantha differs in longer fruit (4-10 cm long) as against less than 3 cm in M. orthoceras (2-3 cm). On that count M. monantha looks better ID.
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Saroj Kasaju

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Sep 24, 2021, 6:19:33 AM9/24/21
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Medicago monantha (C.A.Mey.) Trautv.
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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