Plant for ID : Mumbai : 06AUG21 : AK-02

[Aarti S. Khale]

A small shrub seen at Sanjay Gandhi National Park in the month of Feb,21.

Commiphora?

Aarti

[Saroj Kasaju]

Images not so clear . Malvaceae ??

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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[Paradesi Anjaneyulu]

Yes, ma'am seems Commiphora mukul,

With regards. 

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[Aarti S. Khale]

Saroj Ji,

Thanks for the suggested id.

Regards,

Aarti

[Aarti S. Khale]

Thanks a lot Paradesi Ji.

I have seen a lot of Commiphora shrubs in Oman.

That's why I suggested.

Regards,

Aarti 

[Paradesi Anjaneyulu]

Always welcome ma'am. 

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[Aarti S. Khale]

Thank you.

[J.M. Garg]

Hi, Aarti ji,
Pl. post high res. images to check the details.

As per FoPI, six species are represented, including three represented in efi at Commiphora
Commiphora stocksiana (Engl.) Engl. looks different as per FoP illustration (3-5 foliate), GBIF
Commiphora gileadensis (L.) C.Chr. (3-5 foliate) also looks different as per illustration. 

The Taxonomy of Commiphora mukul (Not listed in FoPI) also appears confusing with POWO giving it an accepted name, while CoL and Flora of Pakistan, giving it as a syn. of Commiphora wightii (Arn.) Bhandari

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[J.M. Garg]

I can see unifoliate leaves with some serration at the upper portion, so it may be as per suggestion by Paradesi ji as per Flora of Pakistan (Leaves sessile, alternate or fascicled, 1-3-foliolate; leaflets glabrous, the terminal sessile or subsessile, obovate, serrate (sometimes serrate only towards the apex), 1-5 cm long, 0.5-2.5 cm broad, lateral when present sessile, serrate or entire, less than half the size of the terminal leaflet).

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[J.M. Garg]

Commiphora berryi is also 3-foliate as per images and references at Commiphora berryi (Arn.) Engl. 

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[Aarti S. Khale]

Garg Ji,

Really sorry for the delay.

Adding high resolution images.

Regards,

Aarti

[Aarti S. Khale]

Second image.

Aarti

[Aarti S. Khale]

This was the whole plant if it helps.

Aarti

[radha veach]

Hi Aarti,

do you remember where in SGNP you saw this plant?

regards

Radha

[Aarti S. Khale]

Radha Ji,

There is a train ride inside the park. 

This plant was near the station, next to the tracks.

Regards,

Aarti

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[radha veach]

Thanks, Aarti ji,

I think this plant is Streblus asper in stunted form.

It's true there is a superficial similarity with Commiphora but it is very unlikely to be growing in this location.  The bark in the photos is a little different from Commiphora and none of the branches are ending in spines.

I have sometimes observed shrubby individuals of Streblus just like this one. It's likely that the plant may have been repeatedly cut back or damaged as it is growing in a public place.

regards

Radha

[Aarti S. Khale]

Dear Radha Ji

You are absolutely brilliant. 

Your keen observation could catch the differences between the two. 

Thanks a lot. 

Regards,

Aarti

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[radha veach]

Thank you Aarti,

keep posting interesting puzzles!

regards

Radha

[Aarti S. Khale]

Yes Radha Ji. 

The Sesame plant in Mumbai, the tree in Kasara Ghat and now this! 

And you are able to solve them all. 

Thank you.

Aarti

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[J.M. Garg]

I am yet to reconcile myself with this being Streblus asper as per images and details herein, though I am not ignoring that possibilty.

I still feel it may be Commiphora wightii as per images and details herein. 

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[J.M. Garg]

Hi, Radha ji,
I have no idea about it.

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On Sat, 28 Aug, 2021, 5:20 pm radha veach, <radha...@gmail.com> wrote:

Garg ji,

Have you ever tried growing Commiphota in the Bombay climate?

[radha veach]

What I mean is this plant doesn't make it here!  

Regards

Radha

[J.M. Garg]

Ok. Thanks, Radha ji

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[Aarti S. Khale]

Radha Ji, 

Thanks for your valuable information. 

Regards,

Aarti