Asteraceae Fortnight Part 2-Discoid Heads: Cirsium falconeri from Chakrata and VOF Tour- NS 42

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Nidhan Singh

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Jun 13, 2013, 11:37:01 PM6/13/13
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Dear All,

Here are the pics recorded from Chakrata region and from VOF tour. I hope they belong to Cirisium falconeri....please validate/correct..

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Jun 21, 2013, 4:31:47 AM6/21/13
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Date: 14 June 2013 09:07
Subject: [efloraofindia:157561] Asteraceae Fortnight Part 2-Discoid Heads: Cirsium falconeri from Chakrata and VOF Tour- NS 42
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Gurcharan Singh

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Jun 9, 2021, 12:14:37 PM6/9/21
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Distributed as  Cirsium falconeri ?
This is also C. verutum, Heads smaller, erect, inner involucre bracts with short somewhat recurved spines suggest C. verutum
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Gurcharan Singh

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Jun 9, 2021, 12:15:27 PM6/9/21
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Distributed as  Cirsium falconeri ?
This is also C. verutum, Heads smaller, erect, inner involucre bracts with short somewhat recurved spines suggest C. verutum
Group discussion at


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Gurcharan Singh

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Jun 27, 2021, 11:30:53 AM6/27/21
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J.M. Garg

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Jul 4, 2021, 7:09:40 AM7/4/21
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I feel it appears close to Cirsium argyracanthum DC. as per GBIF specimens- one, two, three

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J.M. Garg

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Dec 14, 2021, 5:52:23 AM12/14/21
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  I think Cirsium wallichii DC., as per discussions and keys from Flora of Bhutan and specimens from POWO at SK 3195 03 September 2021

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Gurcharan Singh

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Dec 16, 2021, 2:09:51 AM12/16/21
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Not C. wallichii, C. verutum only 

J.M. Garg

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Dec 21, 2021, 5:45:38 AM12/21/21
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To me phyllaries appear similar to those at Cirsium wallichii DC. and as in your post at Asteraceae Fortnight Part 2-Discoid heads- Cirsium wallichii from Kashmir-GS34 (google.com)
I think phyllaries become dilated when in flower and after flowering.  
Looks different from phyllaries and spines at the tip of phyllaries at Cirsium verutum 
I do not see any other closer species, as per keys at Cirsium wallichii DC.



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