Fwd: Doubt in the proper identification.

[J.M. Garg]

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From: Ritu Sharma <rittus...@gmail.com>
Date: 13 May 2016 at 11:28
Subject: Doubt in the proper identification.
To: "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>

Dear Sir,

                     This plant is reported from Mandi. Himachal Pradesh. It seems like Cirsium sp. but I am not that sure. You are requested to provide assistance.

Regards,

Ritu Sharma,

Project Associate,

Indian Institute of Technology,

Mandi. Himachal Pradesh

Ph. No. 0 94186 37858

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[Nidhan Singh]

This should be Serratula pallida in my opinion....!!

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Dr. Nidhan Singh

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Department of Botany
I.B. (PG) College
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[Gurcharan Singh]

Nidhan ji I think leaves are different

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/indiantreepix/suHCyqqedXs

This is my herbarium specimen,of Serratula pallida,  leaves same as yours

Dr. Gurcharan Singh

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[Gurcharan Singh]

The specimen by Ritu Sharma to me looks like Tricholepis, most probably T. elongata.

Nidhan ji, even your plant may not be Serratula, it could also be some species of Tricholepis

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/Serratula/indiantreepix/suHCyqqedXs/y-xlw2jNpC0J

Serratula does not have spiny involucre, there is a good image in Flora Simlensis. 

Dr. Gurcharan Singh

Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089

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[Nidhan Singh]

Thanks a lot Sir for valuable inputs..

I will take care to record detailed pics in next encounter, but for sure my plant as well as this posted plant has spiny involucre, thus I need to reconsider the id...!!

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or  otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant  feedback:

This should be Serratula pallida in my opinion....!!

-- Regards, Dr. Nidhan Singh

Nidhan ji I think leaves are different

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/indiantreepix/suHCyqqedXs This is my herbarium specimen,of Serratula pallida,  leaves same as yours Dr. Gurcharan Singh

The specimen by Ritu Sharma to me looks like Tricholepis, most probably T. elongata.

Nidhan ji, even your plant may not be Serratula, it could also be some species of Tricholepis https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/Serratula/indiantreepix/suHCyqqedXs/y-xlw2jNpC0J Serratula does not have spiny involucre, there is a good image in Flora Simlensis.  Dr. Gurcharan Singh

Thanks a lot Sir for valuable inputs..

I will take care to record detailed pics in next encounter, but for sure my plant as well as this posted plant has spiny involucre, thus I need to reconsider the id...!! -- Regards, Dr. Nidhan Singh

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Vaneet ji.

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From: Vaneet Jishtu
Date: 18 May 2016 at 17:12
Subject: Re: Doubt in the proper identification.
To: "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>

Tricholepis elongata DC. (Asteraceae)

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[Saroj Kumar Kasaju]

Tricholepis elongata DC.

Thank you

Saroj Kasaju