identification required for this plant sp. Found in Ganderbal Kashmir

[Shakir ahmad (Ammatuer Taxonomist)]

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

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From: Shakir ahmad (Ammatuer Taxonomist) <saadiks...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 3 May 2021 at 17:56
Subject: [efloraofindia:384481] identification required for this plant sp. Found in Ganderbal Kashmir
To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>

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[Anzar Khuroo]

Possibility Daphne oleoides

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks a lot, Anzar ji

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[J.M. Garg]

Hi, Shakir ji,

This is the same you have posted at Daphne mucronata

What we have in your area is Daphne mucronata Royle (syn: Daphne oleoides auct. non Schreber: Boiss.) as per Flora of Pakistan. 

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[Anil Thakur]

Hello, Dr. Khuroo ji
I have some confusion regarding Daphne oleoides. 
In Flora of Bashahr Himalaya by N.C. Nayyar and Flora Simlensis, Daphne oleoides Schreb. has been shown to be distributed in Kinnaur and Shimla. However, POWO does not show its distribution in India. BSI Flora is also silent on this species. 

All discussions are about D. mucronata on eFI and FoI. However, D. mucronata at POWO  https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:77229086-1

appear different from the ones discussed in eFI. 
Your views, please. 
My photograph is also attached.

[Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur]

D. oleoides at POWO
https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:831316-1

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Dear Anil Ji, 

It is mentioned in the book by BSI ' Plants of Indian Himalayan Region' and also

in GBIF .

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiNzLWM_9z4AhW4RWwGHftyB2AQFnoECB4QAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.researchgate.net%2Fpublication%2F344016433_MAZARYUN_DAPHNE_OLEOIDES_SCHREB_AN_IMPORTANT_UNANI_DRUG_A_REVIEW&usg=AOvVaw20iAqBvubjjV2tdO7zynfc

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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[Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur]

Thank you, Kasaju ji

But BSI has removed this species from their online version of Indian Flora.

Regards 

[Saroj Kasaju]

In that case is is better ask BSI person dealing with this sp. ??

Thank you Anil Ji !

Saroj Kasaju

[Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur]

Thank you, Saroj Sir

Regards 

[J.M. Garg]

I think our images at Daphne mucronata, by and large, match with those in POWO. Pl. see POWO specimen and GBIF images and specimens.

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Yes D. mucronata

Piperaceae, Lauraceae and Thymelaeaceae Fortnight: Thymelaeaceae- Daphne mucronata from Kashmir-GSSEP04 (google.com)

When trying to resolve such issues, we should always compare with treatment in FBI. The plant D. mucronata Royle was described from Western Himalayas in 1836; J D Hooker in FBI 5: 193, considered it conspecific with D. oleoides Scheber.following Boissier. It has now been established that the two species are distinct, D. mucronata distributed in Asia including Western Himalayas and D. oleoides an Europaean species.

[Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur]

Thank you very much respected Singh Sir.

Based on literature from H.P., I had kept it as D. oleoides in my collection. Now, everything is clear, Sir. There might be a long list of such plants including Phyllanthus niruri, Taxus wallichiana from NW Himalaya, etc. 

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