Kashmir thistles and similar plants-9-Cirsium sp

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Gurcharan Singh

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Jul 23, 2010, 11:45:10 PM7/23/10
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Cirsium sp. from Kashmir, growing along roadsides along Pampore Karewas. I was tempted to identify it as C. wallichii but the spines on leaves are shorter and involucre bracts different from C. wallichii photographed from Manali earlier: Photographed on June 20, 2010

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tanay bose

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Jul 23, 2010, 11:56:36 PM7/23/10
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Dear Sir Ji,
This plant reminds me of  Cirsium verutum (D.Don) Sprengel [Synonym: C. involucratum DC., Cnicus argyracanthus (DC.) C.B. Clarke].

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Gurcharan Singh

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Jul 24, 2010, 12:01:44 AM7/24/10
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Tanay
I have also been considering these two species. Although the flower colour is similar to C. verutum, the spines are much shorter and fewer and only at tips of leaf lobes. Please also note leaves are thicker and darker green in colour. Inner involucre bracts are broader with shorter spines.


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tanay bose

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Jul 24, 2010, 12:13:40 AM7/24/10
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According to your description their is plant which may fit into the size i.e Cirsium edule
But I am not sure whether it's found in Kashmir !

Tanay

J.M. Garg

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Sep 11, 2010, 5:29:30 AM9/11/10
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Earlier relevant feedback:

“This plant reminds me of  Cirsium verutum (D.Don) Sprengel [Synonym: C. involucratum DC., Cnicus argyracanthus (DC.) C.B. Clarke].

regards
Tanay”
 
"I have also been considering these two species. Although the flower colour is similar to C. verutum, the spines are much shorter and fewer and only at tips of leaf lobes. Please also note leaves are thicker and darker green in colour. Inner involucre bracts are broader with shorter spines.
--
Dr. Gurcharan Singh"
 
"According to your description their is plant which may fit into the size i.e Cirsium edule
But I am not sure whether it's found in Kashmir !
Tanay"


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Gurcharan Singh

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Oct 11, 2010, 7:34:33 PM10/11/10
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J.M. Garg

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Oct 31, 2010, 8:24:48 AM10/31/10
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Earlier relevant feedback:
“This plant reminds me of  Cirsium verutum (D.Don) Sprengel [Synonym: C. involucratum DC., Cnicus argyracanthus (DC.) C.B. Clarke].
regards
Tanay”
 
"I have also been considering these two species. Although the flower colour is similar to C. verutum, the spines are much shorter and fewer and only at tips of leaf lobes. Please also note leaves are thicker and darker green in colour. Inner involucre bracts are broader with shorter spines.
--
Dr. Gurcharan Singh"
 
"According to your description their is plant which may fit into the size i.e Cirsium edule
But I am not sure whether it's found in Kashmir !
Tanay"

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Gurcharan Singh

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Nov 15, 2010, 3:27:26 PM11/15/10
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Earlier relevant feedback:
“This plant reminds me of  Cirsium verutum (D.Don) Sprengel [Synonym: C. involucratum DC., Cnicus argyracanthus (DC.) C.B. Clarke].
regards
Tanay”
 
"I have also been considering these two species. Although the flower colour is similar to C. verutum, the spines are much shorter and fewer and only at tips of leaf lobes. Please also note leaves are thicker and darker green in colour. Inner involucre bracts are broader with shorter spines.
-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh"
 
"According to your description their is plant which may fit into the size i.e Cirsium edule
But I am not sure whether it's found in Kashmir !
Tanay"


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Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 
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