Kashmir thistles and similar plants-9-Cirsium sp

[Gurcharan Singh]

Cirsium sp. from Kashmir, growing along roadsides along Pampore Karewas. I was tempted to identify it as C. wallichii but the spines on leaves are shorter and involucre bracts different from C. wallichii photographed from Manali earlier: Photographed on June 20, 2010

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[tanay bose]

Dear Sir Ji,
This plant reminds me of  Cirsium verutum (D.Don) Sprengel [Synonym: C. involucratum DC., Cnicus argyracanthus (DC.) C.B. Clarke].

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Tanay

I have also been considering these two species. Although the flower colour is similar to C. verutum, the spines are much shorter and fewer and only at tips of leaf lobes. Please also note leaves are thicker and darker green in colour. Inner involucre bracts are broader with shorter spines.

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Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
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[tanay bose]

According to your description their is plant which may fit into the size i.e Cirsium edule
But I am not sure whether it's found in Kashmir !

Tanay

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise pl.

Earlier relevant feedback:

“This plant reminds me of  Cirsium verutum (D.Don) Sprengel [Synonym: C. involucratum DC., Cnicus argyracanthus (DC.) C.B. Clarke].

regards
Tanay”

 

"I have also been considering these two species. Although the flower colour is similar to C. verutum, the spines are much shorter and fewer and only at tips of leaf lobes. Please also note leaves are thicker and darker green in colour. Inner involucre bracts are broader with shorter spines.

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Dr. Gurcharan Singh"

 

"According to your description their is plant which may fit into the size i.e Cirsium edule
But I am not sure whether it's found in Kashmir !

Tanay"

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Resurfacing again for ID 

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Subject: Kashmir thistles and similar plants-9-Cirsium sp
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[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise pl.
Earlier relevant feedback:
“This plant reminds me of  Cirsium verutum (D.Don) Sprengel [Synonym: C. involucratum DC., Cnicus argyracanthus (DC.) C.B. Clarke].
regards
Tanay”
 
"I have also been considering these two species. Although the flower colour is similar to C. verutum, the spines are much shorter and fewer and only at tips of leaf lobes. Please also note leaves are thicker and darker green in colour. Inner involucre bracts are broader with shorter spines.
--
Dr. Gurcharan Singh"
 
"According to your description their is plant which may fit into the size i.e Cirsium edule
But I am not sure whether it's found in Kashmir !
Tanay"

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Date: 24 July 2010 09:15

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise pl.
Earlier relevant feedback:
“This plant reminds me of  Cirsium verutum (D.Don) Sprengel [Synonym: C. involucratum DC., Cnicus argyracanthus (DC.) C.B. Clarke].
regards
Tanay”
 
"I have also been considering these two species. Although the flower colour is similar to C. verutum, the spines are much shorter and fewer and only at tips of leaf lobes. Please also note leaves are thicker and darker green in colour. Inner involucre bracts are broader with shorter spines.
-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh"
 
"According to your description their is plant which may fit into the size i.e Cirsium edule
But I am not sure whether it's found in Kashmir !
Tanay"

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Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

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Date: Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 8:45 PM

Subject: Kashmir thistles and similar plants-9-Cirsium sp
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[Saroj Kumar Kasaju]

Cirsium verutum (D.Don) Spreng.

Thank you

Saroj Kasaju

[Gurcharan Singh]

Yes Saroj ji, you are right

[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you Gurucharan sir.

Saroj Kasaju

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[J.M. Garg]

This is 
https://efloraofindia.com/efi/cirsium-wallichii/

Looks different from images at 
https://efloraofindia.com/efi/cirsium-verutum/

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