Asclepiadaceae member for ID from Uttarakhand_DSR_October 2017_2

[D.S Rawat]

This perennial climber was seen and photographed in our last trekking to Ralam village in Uttarakhand. It was found distributed in temperate broadleaf forests between 2200-2500m elevations.

Please suggest the ID.

DSRawat Pantnagar

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Dr D.S. Rawat

Department of Biological Sciences, G.B. Pant University of Agriculture & Technology Pantnagar-263 145 Uttarakhand, INDIA

eflorapantnagar displaying wild flora of Pantnagar

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Rawat ji. 

I hope you already checked comparative images at https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/apocynaceae

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[J.M. Garg]

Does not match with any species as comparative images in efi so far at Apocynaceae

However, these appear close to images of ‎Decalepis genus.

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[D.S Rawat]

Thank you Garg Ji for suggesting similarity.

Probably any expert of the family Asclepiadaceae (now merged with Apocynaceae) may help in it.

DSRawat Pantnagar

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eflorapantnagar displaying wild flora of Pantnagar

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Does not match with any species as comparative images in efi so far at Apocynaceae

However, these appear close to images of ‎Decalepis genus. - from me

Thank you Garg Ji for suggesting similarity. Probably any expert of the family Asclepiadaceae (now merged with Apocynaceae) may help in it. DSRawat Pantnagar

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[J.M. Garg]

May I know the species of Decalepis found in Uttarakhand. 

[D.S Rawat]

No Decalepis species is known in Uttarakhand.

DSRawat Pantnagar

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eflorapantnagar displaying wild flora of Pantnagar

[J.M. Garg]

Any other image close to Decalepis? 

[lalithamba]

It looks like Tylophora barbata - a native plant of Australia; it inhabits in hilly rainforest areas; pls check it.

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Lalithamba ji. 

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[J.M. Garg]

Hi, Rawat ji, 

Any views in the matter pl. 

[D.S Rawat]

Thank you Lalithamba Ji for suggesting the possible ID as T. barbata (now known as Vincetoxicum barbatum (R.Br.) Kuntze) which I checked. This species is not known from Uttarakhand or even India; moreover, it has sessile stigma while distinct long style and stigma are visible in some flowers of my plant.

In fact I am yet not able to narrow down to any genus.

DSRawat Pantnagar

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eflorapantnagar displaying wild flora of Pantnagar

[Nidhan Singh]

Any remote possibility of Holostemma...??

Holostemma rheedii is listed from H.P. by Collett..but the leaf base is described as deeply cordate..!!

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[Lalithamba Avadhanam]

To me it looks some species of Tylophora only; because it is a very variable genus; or may be a new one

thank you 

regards

A.Lalithamba

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Nidhan ji, for your inputs. Hope it gets identified soon.

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Lalithamba ji.

[chrischa...@btinternet.com]

I do not understand why 'Tylophora barbata', a plant known only from a limited part of Australia has been suggested.  A quick glance shows that of the images

available on the internet (assuming they are correct and they probably are in this case - though frequently are not) do not come close to those photos taken by Dr Rawat. What herbarium specimens have been examined to conclude it belongs only to this genus?  Please explain on what basis it only belongs to the genus Tylophora? Too much reliance is put on glancing at images on the internet.  It really is important that the geographic and altitudinal distributions are considered when suggesting likely identifications. Most genera and individual species are variable.

Furthermore, it is often impossible to decide which genus or species a plant belongs to on the basis of a small number of photos only.

I am raising really important issues which EFI needs to address.

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Chadwell ji. 

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[J.M. Garg]

If you are able to pin point the genus, further efforts can be made for final I'd. 

[Saroj Kumar Kasaju]

Inflorescence pattern and flower buds indicate towards Gymnema sp.

Thank you

Saroj Kasaju

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding for ID

Distributed as Apocynaceae member- Ralam village in Uttarakhand

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding for ID

Distributed as Apocynaceae member- Ralam village in Uttarakhand

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[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Any idea about the genus ?

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Marsdenia lucida Edgew. ex Madden

Thank you.

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[D.S Rawat]

Thank you very much Saroj Ji for this long pending identification. 

It seems that good live images are not available for this species.

These images in eFI will be helpful in future ID of species.

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[Saroj Kasaju]

My pleasure ! Marsdenia lucida Edgew. ex Madden

Thank you Rawat Ji !

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