ID-TSP05DEC2015-1: Holigarna sp (Anacardiaceae) for further ID.

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tsp kumar

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Dec 4, 2015, 11:51:45 PM12/4/15
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Dear friends,

 

Kindly identify this Holigarna specimen.Is this Holigarna arnottiana or Holigarna ferruginea...???

 

Habit:Tree

 

Habitat:Semi-evergreen forest

 

Sighting:Balehonnur,Chikmagalur,Karnataka,about 1100 msl

 

Date:26-11-2015

 

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tspkumar

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Shrikant Ingalhalikar

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Dec 6, 2015, 7:35:29 PM12/6/15
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Leaves have to be more than 30 cm long, rusty pubescent beneath and the fruit has to be less than 1 cm long for it to be H ferruginea. I can barely see underside of leaves to call it ferruginea. You need to confirm other features. Regards

tsp kumar

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Dec 6, 2015, 10:30:33 PM12/6/15
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Thanks Srikant Inghalikar ji for the feedback.How about H.arnottiana...??

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tsp kumar

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Dec 9, 2015, 12:15:56 PM12/9/15
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I strongly believe that the uploaded images are that of a specimen belonging to the genus Holigarna. The Digita Flora of Karnataka describes five species that are known to occur in Karnataka...H.arnottiana,H.ferruginea,H.grahamii,H.nigra and H.beddomei.....If H.arnottiana and H.arnottiana are ruled out the options narrow down to the remaining three H.grahamii,H. nigra and H.beddomei....! No images of  are avaliable in that site for H.beddomei . A detailed floral desciption is provided for H.grahamii .But I am not able to decipher this....!  Moreover, H.grahamii is known to occur in the region where the instant specimen was found...!  Would  the experts kindly examine...?  I understand that it is difficult to identify a specimen  by images alone,but I am left with no options except the images that I have uploaded...!

Ref:  Description for H.grahamii for ready reference.


Keeping my fingers crossed...!!!

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Tapas Chakrabarty

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Dec 9, 2015, 12:43:33 PM12/9/15
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It is needless to emphasize that here comes the need for collection and preparation of herbarium specimens!

J.M. Garg

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Dec 17, 2015, 12:44:46 AM12/17/15
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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Leaves have to be more than 30 cm long, rusty pubescent beneath and the fruit has to be less than 1 cm long for it to be H ferruginea. I can barely see underside of leaves to call it ferruginea. You need to confirm other features. Regards
Shrikant                                         

I strongly believe that the uploaded images are that of a specimen belonging to the genus Holigarna. The Digita Flora of Karnataka describes five species that are known to occur in Karnataka...H.arnottiana,H.ferruginea,H.grahamii,H.nigra and H.beddomei.....If H.arnottiana and H.arnottiana are ruled out the options narrow down to the remaining three H.grahamii,H. nigra and H.beddomei....! No images of  are avaliable in that site for H.beddomei . A detailed floral desciption is provided for H.grahamii .But I am not able to decipher this....!  Moreover, H.grahamii is known to occur in the region where the instant specimen was found...!  Would  the experts kindly examine...?  I understand that it is difficult to identify a specimen  by images alone,but I am left with no options except the images that I have uploaded...!

Ref:  Description for H.grahamii for ready reference.
Keeping my fingers crossed...!!! 

On perusal of references & posts at Holigarna grahamii , I agree with you. But I am not sure.- from me 


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Shrikant Ingalhalikar

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Dec 17, 2015, 8:25:02 AM12/17/15
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Id can be confirmed only from specimens of leaf and fruit. These do not show in the pictures. Till then it can be only guessed. Regards

tsp kumar

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Dec 17, 2015, 10:52:19 AM12/17/15
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Thanks Shrikant ji.....I will try to get some pics of  leaves and fruits as well when I  visit  next.Thanks for your feed back.

On 17 Dec 2015 18:55, "Shrikant Ingalhalikar" <shrikant.i...@gmail.com> wrote:
Id can be confirmed only from specimens of leaf and fruit. These do not show in the pictures. Till then it can be only guessed. Regards

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J.M. Garg

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Dec 19, 2015, 10:25:02 AM12/19/15
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Thanks, Rani Bhagat ji.

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From: Rani Bhagat
Date: 19 December 2015 at 18:27
Subject: Re: Fwd: [efloraofindia:236909] ID-TSP05DEC2015-1: Holigarna sp (Anacardiaceae) for further ID.
To: "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>


It look like Holigarna grahamii


Dr.Rani B. Bhagat
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