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Gurcharan Singh

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Jun 12, 2010, 9:56:58 PM6/12/10
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Resurfacing again for ID confirmation
Earlier feedback

Tanay.......................As far as my knowledge this is some species of Hopea !! H be H pubescens but not sure, kindly validate


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Date: Fri, May 28, 2010 at 2:44 PM
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Dear members.....Pls identify this plant......Is this a member of  Dipterocarpaceae family..?
 
 
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R. Vijayasankar

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Jun 12, 2010, 10:27:49 PM6/12/10
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Looks like Ventilago species.

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R. Vijayasankar


tanay bose

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Jun 12, 2010, 11:17:01 PM6/12/10
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Dear Vijaya Ji,
Are you indicating towards
Ventilago leiocarpa ??
Tanay



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R. Vijayasankar

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Jun 12, 2010, 11:34:31 PM6/12/10
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Dear Tanay,
 
The key in FoC leads to Ventilago maderaspatana (Panicles terminal, fruits glabrous, lateral nerves ca 4 pairs etc.). But we need more details and better pictures to confirm the id.

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R. Vijayasankar


tanay bose

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Jun 12, 2010, 11:36:35 PM6/12/10
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The close up can really help us out !1
Tanay

JM Garg

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Jun 24, 2020, 1:37:22 PM6/24/20
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Can it be Ventilago denticulata Willd. as per comparative images at Ventilago‎ ?
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radha veach

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Jun 24, 2020, 10:02:03 PM6/24/20
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Yes, it is, Garg ji

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Radha

J.M. Garg

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Jun 25, 2020, 12:01:31 AM6/25/20
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Thanks, Radha ji.
I get confused time and again.
What are the keys given for Maharashtra?

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J.M. Garg

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Jun 25, 2020, 12:16:13 AM6/25/20
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Hi, Radha ji,
Are our posts correctly identified at Ventilago denticulata and Ventilago madraspatana ?

J.M. Garg

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Jun 25, 2020, 2:10:15 AM6/25/20
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Thanks, Santhosh ji,
Looks different from Hopea as per comparative images herein.
Also looks different from comparative images at Dipterocarpaceae
Looks close to images at Ventilago denticulata

On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 11:20, Dr E S Santhosh Kumar <santhos...@gmail.com> wrote:
It might be a Dipterocarpaceae member, hopefully Hopea sp. 

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Jun 25, 2020, 4:23:59 AM6/25/20
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Thanks, Radha ji.

On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 13:29, radha veach <radha...@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Gargji,

I am taking V. denticulata Willd. to be a syn of V. calyculata Tulasne. and V. maderaspatana Gaertn (or madraspatana) to be a distinct species. There has been confusion in the names with different authors.
In my area both of these as well as V. bombaiensis are found and it is easy to differentiate them in the field, especially when in fruit.
All the images at V. maderaspatana seem to be correct.
I have a doubt about the first set of pictures under V. denticulata. They seem to be V. maderaspatana, as long as they are all of the same plant. The new leaves are clearly seen in the 4th picture, bottom line on the left. In fact if you click on the image it is correctly labeled.

As for keys, I don't know which to follow.
V. bombaiensis is easy because flowers and fruit are in axillary fascicles. The leaves have glands in the axils of nerves on the underside. It is restricted to evergreen forests.
V. denticulata has larger leaves with prominent veins. Stems usually striate and green. Large stems striate with red and black. It is found in deciduous forests and less in evergreen. It is a large liana.
V. maderaspatana stems dry blackish, leaves are smaller and often more acute at the apex. It is found more in evergreen forests and rarely in deciduous patches. It also can be a very large plant covering many trees.
Hope this can be of some use.

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Radha




J.M. Garg

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Jun 25, 2020, 5:05:57 AM6/25/20
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Thanks, Radha ji.
I feel much more confident now.
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