Rubus 020815SP1-2

[Subhasis Panda]

Dear all

I need species level identification of following 3 images of Rubus sp.

Date: 02/08/15

Locality: Jalapahar Darjeeling

Altitude: 7000 ft (GPS)

Habit: Shrub, scandent

S. Panda

darjeeling

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Rubus species in eFloraofindia (with details/ keys from published papers/ regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ Biotik/ efloras/ books etc., where ever available on net)

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[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Rubus species in eFloraofindia (with details/ keys from published papers/ regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ Biotik/ efloras/ books etc., where ever available on net)

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From: Subhasis Panda <bgc....@gmail.com>
Date: 6 September 2015 at 11:01
Subject: Rubus 020815SP1-2
To: indiantreepix <indian...@googlegroups.com>, "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>

[Ritesh Kumar Choudhary]

Looks like Rubus moluccanus L.

Regards,

Ritesh

[surajit koley]

Thank you again Garg Sir. I didn't even see a simple leaved rosaceae!

Thank you

Regards

surajit koley

a non-botanist member of

efloraofIndia google group

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Sankardas ji.

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From: Sankardas Chakrabarti
Date: 18 September 2015 at 16:31
Subject: Re: Rubus 020815SP1-2
To: "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>

This white flowered Rubus seems to be R. floribunda 

On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 10:54 AM, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Subhasis Panda]

Thanks Ritesh for your id assistance.

S. Panda

Darjeeling

[J.M. Garg]

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From: Bimal Sar kar <bima...@gmail.com>
Date: 19 September 2015 at 19:23
Subject: Re: Rubus 020815SP1-2
To: "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>

To me it seems to be Rubus moluccanus.

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Looks like Rubus moluccanus L. Regards, Ritesh

This white flowered Rubus seems to be R. floribunda - from Sankardas Chakrabarti

To me it seems to be Rubus moluccanus.- from Bimal ji.

As per GRIN Rubus floribundus Kunth, does not occur in India in wild.

efi page on Rubus moluccanus

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From: Subhasis Panda <bgc....@gmail.com>
Date: 6 September 2015 at 11:01
Subject: Rubus 020815SP1-2
To: indiantreepix <indian...@googlegroups.com>, "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>

[J.M. Garg]

I think it may be Rubus calycinoides as per images and details herein and as per keys in Online Flora of Nepal.

16a	Pedicels 2–15 mm long. Sepals 11–15 mm long, margins lacerate, apex acute or sometimes lacerate			R. calycinoides
b	Pedicels 2–7 mm long. Sepals 8–12 mm long, margins entire, apex acute to acuminate			R. rugosus

I think the keys above clearly do not bring out the difference properly as neither margins are not entire in R.rugosus nor the apexes is as mentioned above in both the species.

I checked in GBIF also. Pl. see specimens from India and Nepal for R.calycinoides and R. rugosus

Flora of Bhutan gives the following keys:

Leaves 10—20cm long and broad, lobes acute; stipules 1.5-2cm, subpersistent; pedicels 8- 15mm; calyx lobes 10-12mm, often toothed ..... 16. R. calycinoides
Leaves 8-12X6-10cm, lobes rounded or subacute; stipules 1-1.5cm, early caducous; pedicels 2-7mm; calyx lobes 8—9mm, entire or minutely toothed at apex ...................................... .. 17. R. rugosus

I think lobes acute in R.calycinoides and rounded or subacute in R. rugosus, may be one of the major differences. 

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With regards,
J.M.Garg

[Saroj Kasaju]

Yes Mr. Garg !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Panda Subhasis p]

Thanks a lot for id assistance