19072011-BS-1 Shrub from Karnal for Id

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Balkar Arya

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Jul 18, 2011, 8:44:29 PM7/18/11
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Dear All
pls id this garden shrub shot from a Nursery in Karnal Haryna. Never seen before
height was about 4 feet, flowers less than 1 cm. flowers were on leaves?
Nurserymen could not provide any name of this plant


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Dr Balkar Singh
Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
Arya P G College, Panipat
Haryana-132103
09416262964
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Gurcharan Singh

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Jul 18, 2011, 9:16:14 PM7/18/11
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I hope Homacladium platycladum (F. Muell.) L. H. Bailey (syn: Muehlenbeckia platyclados (F.Muell.) Meisn..)

Family Polygonaceae


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Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
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Balkar Arya

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Jul 18, 2011, 9:56:23 PM7/18/11
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Sir I think Muehlenbeckia platyclados is a different plant 
i have both in my college will shot both today again and share

tanay bose

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Jul 18, 2011, 11:48:54 PM7/18/11
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Hi Balkar ji ,
Firstly note the typo in the spelling Homalocladium platycladum in the post by Sir Ji.
Lastly I support the  Sir Ji comment of Muehlenbeckia platyclada (F. Muell.) Meisn. 
being the synonym of  Homalocladium platycladum, which is true according to GRIN.
Thanks
Tanay

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Department of Botany.
University of British Columbia .
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Balkar Arya

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Jul 19, 2011, 9:44:03 AM7/19/11
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Dear Tanay i mean plant posted by me and id given by Gurcharan Sir 
i will share pics of both two today itself

Balkar Arya

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Jul 19, 2011, 9:56:52 AM7/19/11
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Sending
I think the attached snaps are Homacladium platycladum syn Muehlenbeckia platyclados
these were shot today from the Garden of My College this is in cemented pot planted by me 3 months back. 
Pls correct me if i am wrong
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Balkar Arya

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Jul 19, 2011, 10:00:50 AM7/19/11
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Some more snaps of the earlier posted plant this was planted a month back in my college now in flowering stage
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tanay bose

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Jul 19, 2011, 10:11:31 AM7/19/11
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Got it Balkar Ji
Tanay

Ushadi micromini

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Jul 20, 2011, 8:51:11 PM7/20/11
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last picture (number 10, it would be) reminds me of what we called
tapeworm plant...
usha di
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On Jul 19, 6:56 pm, Balkar Arya <balkara...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sending
> I think the attached snaps are Homacladium platycladum syn Muehlenbeckia
> platyclados
> these were shot today from the Garden of My College this is in cemented pot
> planted by me 3 months back.
> Pls correct me if i am wrong
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 7:14 PM, Balkar Arya <balkara...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Dear Tanay i mean plant posted by me and id given by Gurcharan Sir
> > i will share pics of both two today itself
>
> > On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 9:18 AM, tanay bose <tanaybos...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Hi Balkar ji ,
> >> Firstly note the typo in the spelling Homalocladium platycladum in the
> >> post by Sir Ji.
> >> Lastly I support the  Sir Ji comment of Muehlenbeckia platyclada (F.
> >> Muell.) Meisn.
> >> being the synonym of  Homalocladium platycladum, which is true according
> >> to GRIN.
> >> Thanks
> >> Tanay
> >> *
> >> *
> >> On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Balkar Arya <balkara...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >>> Sir I think *Muehlenbeckia* *platyclados is a different plant *
> >>> *i have both in my college will shot both today again and share*
>
> >>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 6:46 AM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >>>> I hope Homacladium platycladum (F. Muell.) L. H. Bailey (syn: *
> >>>> Muehlenbeckia* *platyclados* (F.Muell.) Meisn..)
>
> >>>> Family Polygonaceae
>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> >>>> Retired  Associate Professor
> >>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> >>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> >>>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> >>>>http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
> >>>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 6:14 AM, Balkar Arya <balkara...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >>>>> Dear All
> >>>>> pls id this garden shrub shot from a Nursery in Karnal Haryna. Never
> >>>>> seen before
> >>>>> height was about 4 feet, flowers less than 1 cm. flowers were on
> >>>>> leaves?
> >>>>> Nurserymen could not provide any name of this plant
>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Regards
>
> >>>>> Dr Balkar Singh
> >>>>> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
> >>>>> Arya P G College, Panipat
> >>>>> Haryana-132103
> >>>>> 09416262964
>
> >>> --
> >>> Regards
>
> >>> Dr Balkar Singh
> >>> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
> >>> Arya P G College, Panipat
> >>> Haryana-132103
> >>> 09416262964
>
> >> --
> >> *Tanay Bose*
> >> Research Assistant & Teaching Assistant.
> >> Department of Botany.
> >> University of British Columbia .
> >> 3529-6270 University Blvd.
> >> Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
> >> Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
> >>            604-822-2019 (Lab)
> >>            604-822-6089  (Fax)
> >> ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
> >> *Webpages:*
> >>http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.html
> >>http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.html
> >>https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/
>
> > --
> > Regards
>
> > Dr Balkar Singh
> > Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
> > Arya P G College, Panipat
> > Haryana-132103
> > 09416262964
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Dr Balkar Singh
> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
> Arya P G College, Panipat
> Haryana-132103
> 09416262964
>
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Balkar Arya

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Aug 15, 2011, 8:57:03 AM8/15/11
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Any way can it be 
Phyllanthus epiphyllanthus?????

Dinesh Valke

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Aug 15, 2011, 2:06:33 PM8/15/11
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Balkar ji ... not familiar with Phyllanthus epiphyllanthus.
Regards.
Dinesh

Dr Pankaj Kumar

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Aug 15, 2011, 3:02:11 PM8/15/11
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Respected Balkar sir
This does look like Euphorbiaceae flower and now Phyllanthaceae.
Phyllanthus epiphyllanthus
Thanks for sharing.
Pankaj


On Aug 15, 11:06 pm, Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Balkar ji ... not familiar with *Phyllanthus epiphyllanthus*.

Vijayasankar

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Aug 15, 2011, 4:16:44 PM8/15/11
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Very good identification, Balkar ji. I never imagined this kind of phylloclades in Phyllanthus, so I didn't think of it. 
Thanks for the id.
 
Regards 
 
Vijayasankar Raman
National Center for Natural Products Research
University of Mississippi

Balkar Arya

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Aug 15, 2011, 9:34:02 PM8/15/11
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Thanks Dinesh Ji Pankaj Ji and Vijaysankar Ji

Ushadi micromini

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Aug 15, 2011, 11:36:45 PM8/15/11
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After all is said and done...
the shorthand conversations among experts though must be meaningful
to them,

its confusing me...

For simple minded folks like me, I need clear cut id...what is the
first one and
what is the second one?

PLEASE SPELL IT OUT , preferably in different postings....

Thank you...
Usha di
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On Aug 16, 6:34 am, Balkar Arya <balkara...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Dinesh Ji Pankaj Ji and Vijaysankar Ji
>
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 1:46 AM, Vijayasankar <vijay.botan...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
> > Very good identification, Balkar ji. I never imagined this kind of
> > phylloclades in Phyllanthus, so I didn't think of it.
> > Thanks for the id.
>
> > Regards
>
> > Vijayasankar Raman
> > National Center for Natural Products Research
> > University of Mississippi
>

Mahadeswara

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Aug 16, 2011, 12:03:41 AM8/16/11
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Looks like sword bush. Phyllanthus epiphyllanthus syn. Xylophylla
epiphyllantha.

On Aug 15, 5:57 pm, Balkar Arya <balkara...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Any way can it be
> Phyllanthus epiphyllanthus?????
>
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 6:21 AM, Ushadi micromini <microminipho...@gmail.com

Vijayasankar

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Aug 16, 2011, 12:16:50 AM8/16/11
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The synonym tells us that the phylloclade (leaf-like, flattened stem) was initially mistaken for a leaf due to its appearance.

 
Regards 
 
Vijayasankar Raman
National Center for Natural Products Research
University of Mississippi



Gurcharan Singh

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Aug 16, 2011, 12:41:29 AM8/16/11
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Ushadi
Although the two plants look similar superficially, and I also got confused earlier, they are quite distinct although the stem is flattened in both.

First and third set of photographs belong to Phyllanthus epiphyllanthus. Note continuous stem with flowers along the margin.

The second set of photographs belong to  Homacladium platycladum (syn Muehlenbeckia platycladosPolygonum platycladum F.Muell.), a member of Polygonaceae, note jointed stem divided into flattened sepments, a modification of stem known as phylloclad, also seen in Opuntia.


-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

Dinesh Valke

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Aug 16, 2011, 1:10:12 AM8/16/11
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Many thanks to all ... many thanks to Balkar ji for the special Phyllanthus epiphyllanthus.
Regards.
Dinesh


formp...@yahoo.com

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Aug 16, 2011, 1:57:10 AM8/16/11
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Could get the explaination properly. But photos are gone. Is it possible to put back the 1st set with discription and 2nd set with discription.
Am I asking too much?
Thank you.
Madhuri

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From: Gurcharan Singh <sing...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 10:11:29 +0530
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Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:77192] Re: 19072011-BS-1 Shrub from Karnal for Id

Balkar Arya

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Aug 16, 2011, 10:52:13 AM8/16/11
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Thanks Gurcharan Ji for clarification. I will upload Homacladium platycladum separately as today itself i shot a few more pics of This plant

ushadi Micromini

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Aug 16, 2011, 3:55:44 PM8/16/11
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Thank you Balkar ji, that would help those of us just getting our feet wet in the id business!!

And the clarification was well received, Gurucharanji.

Usha di
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