J&K, Srinagar, April 2023 :: Pink flowers for ID :: ARK2023-041

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Alka Khare

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Jun 16, 2023, 12:17:43 AM6/16/23
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Hello friends

These flowers were seen in Nishant Bagh in Srinagar, J&K in April 2023.
Are they some Silene?

Requested to please ID.

Thanks and regards
Alka Khare
Silene_Srinagar Nishat bagh2.jpeg
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Alka Khare

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Jun 16, 2023, 12:27:21 AM6/16/23
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Some more pics

Regards
Alka Khare

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Saroj Kasaju

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Jun 16, 2023, 12:55:18 AM6/16/23
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Lythraceae ???


Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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Alka Khare

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Jun 22, 2023, 11:01:27 PM6/22/23
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Thanks Saroj ji, but I could not find any match.
Let us wait for more help.

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Alka Khare

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Jun 23, 2023, 12:08:41 AM6/23/23
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Saponaria calabrica Guss. [Caryophyllaceae].

Best wishes, Viplav

Shakir Ahmad

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Jun 23, 2023, 2:46:20 AM6/23/23
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Silene

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Jun 23, 2023, 5:54:57 AM6/23/23
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If cultivated is it Silene armeria (common name Catchfly).?
Silene is a popular flowering plant planted in the gardens of Srinagar.
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Taffazull

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Jun 23, 2023, 9:25:03 AM6/23/23
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I'm not convinced about this being Silene. The allied genus Saponaria does tend to be mistaken and mislabelled as Silene in Indian gardens. This looks like Saponaria to me.

Generally speaking, one of the differences lies in the number of styles — 3 or 5 in Silene vs. 2 in Saponaria. Dimorphic (staminate/pistillate) flowers are known to occur in both genera. On close observation, a few 2-styled flowers can be discerned in Alka ji's photographs.

The calyx in Alka ji's plant is densely hispid. Hence, Silene armeria can be safely ruled out. Also, the pronounced corona present in the flowers of Silene species is absent/inconspicuous in Alka ji's plant.

Best wishes, Viplav

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Jun 23, 2023, 11:45:02 AM6/23/23
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Dear Viplav ji,
Thanks for making clear the difference between Silene and Saponaria cultivars.
Regards
Taffazull

Saroj Kasaju

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Jun 23, 2023, 11:58:18 AM6/23/23
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I  guess it is  not a Silene!
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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Jun 24, 2023, 4:00:51 AM6/24/23
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As Viplav ji has suggested it is S.calabrica
I am attaching a Public Domain photo of the same from Wikipedia for confirmation.
Attribution: Ziegler175. Original uploader was Ziegler175 at German Wikipedia - Own work (Original text: eigene Aufnahme)
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Taffazull

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Alka Khare

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Jun 24, 2023, 8:29:04 AM6/24/23
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Thank you Viplav ji, Shakir ji and Taffazull ji for this interesting conversation as well as the resolution of the ID.

I think this is an addition to eFI.

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Alka Khare

Gurcharan Singh

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Jun 25, 2023, 9:51:25 PM6/25/23
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Yes it is S. calabrica (bifid style) and spoon shaped petals with rounded tips (bid in Silene armeria)
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