ID Pl..(climber from Kulang)

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Prashant awale

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Sep 29, 2009, 1:58:57 PM9/29/09
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Dear Friends,

This was looking like a climber spread over the ground. Got noticed due to its leaves.. ID pl.
(Location: base of Kulang gad, Igatpuri region, Dt: 20-09-09)

Thanks & best wishes
Prashant
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Dr. Pankaj Kumar

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Sep 29, 2009, 2:14:06 PM9/29/09
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This should be

Nervilia crociformis (Zoll. & Moritzi) Seidenf., Dansk Bot. Ark. 32:
151 (1978).

Synonym: Nervilia prainiana (King & Pantl.) Seidenf., Dansk Bot. Ark.
32(2): 149 (1978).

But I personally prefer Nervilia prainiana as a valid name and
consider crociformis as a different species.
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Pankaj

Vijayadas D

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Sep 29, 2009, 2:15:29 PM9/29/09
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                  I think it is the plant of same sps or different that were posted by Nayan sir.
 
Expecting comments.

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Dr. Pankaj Kumar

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Sep 29, 2009, 2:39:01 PM9/29/09
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No, the picture of flower by Mr. N. S. Dungriyal doesnt belong to
Nervilia crociformis. But both have similar kind of leaves, the
difference lies in the flowers. Lip has fimbriate margin towards the
apex whereas it is entire in infundibuliformis.

Dr. Pankaj Kumar

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Sep 29, 2009, 2:39:59 PM9/29/09
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the place where i had seen this plant in wild for the first time,
trust me it was spread like a carpet over an area of more than 10 m
diameter

Dr Gurcharan Singh

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Sep 29, 2009, 2:50:28 PM9/29/09
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Pankaj ji
It will be interesting to know which authority treats Nervilia prainiana as synonym of Nervilia crociformis.


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Dr. Pankaj Kumar

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Sep 29, 2009, 3:11:39 PM9/29/09
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Respected Gurcharan Sir,

Nervilia crociformis is accepted by

1. Govaerts, R. (2003). World Checklist of Monocotyledons Database in
ACCESS: 1-71827. The Board of Trustees of the Royal Botanic Gardens,
Kew.
2. Misra, S. (2004). Orchids of Orissa: 1-774. Bishen Singh Mahendra
Pal Singh.
3. Demissew, S., Cribb, P. & Rasmussen, F. (2004). Field Guide to
Ethiopian Orchids: 1-300. The Board of Trustees of the Royal Botanic
Gardens, Kew.
4. Akoègninou, A., van der Burg, W.J. & van der Maesen, L.J.G. (eds.)
(2006). Flore Analytique du Bénin: 1-1034. Backhuys Publishers.
5. Lucksom, S.Z. (2007). The orchids of Sikkim and North East
Himalaya: 1-984. S.Z.Lucks0m, India.
6. Lin. W.M., Hsu, T.C. & Lin, T.P. (2007). Newly discovered native
orchids of Taiwan. Taiwania 52: 281-286.
7. Szlachetko, D. & Kowalkoska, A. (2007). Contributions to the orchid
flora of Guinea, West Africa. Polish Botanical Studies 25: 1-259.
8. Szlachetko, D.L. (2008). Orchidaceae of Ivory Coast. Ruizia 20:
1-396.

Nervilia prainiana is accepted by
1. OFFCOURSE ME!!
2. Deva, S. and H. B. Naithani. 1986. The Orchid Flora of North West
Himalayas. Print and Media Associate, New Delhi.
3. Seidenfaden, G. 1978. Orchid genera in Thailand VI: Neottioideae
Lindl. Dansk Botanisk Arkiv. 32 (2): 1- 195.
4. Pearce, N. R. and P. J. Cribb. 2002. The Orchids of Bhutan. Royal
Botanic Gardens, Edinburgh and The Royal Government of Bhutan.

When I met Dr. Misra, his exlaination was, I HAVE SEEN MORE SPECIMENS
THAN YOU PANKAJ!!!,
LUCKSOM HAS JUST COPIED WHAT OTHERS HAVE WRITTEN, I AM A BIG FAN OF
LATE DR GUNNAR SEIDENFADEN AND DR PHILLIP CRIBB, SO I TREAT THEM AS
SEPARATE SPECIES. On the basis of description, in N. prainiana leaves
are more orbicular whereas it is polygonal in N. crociformis and lip
has no sidelobes in N. crociformis, whereas it is distinct in N.
prainiana.

Regards
Pankaj

Dr Gurcharan Singh

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Sep 29, 2009, 7:29:17 PM9/29/09
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Thanks a lot Pankaj ji for this nice information
 
That reminds me of an similar incident we had with Prof. Mehra from Chandigarh nearly 40 years back. I hope you must heard about famous work of Babcock on Genus Crepis of Asteraceae. He merged several genera with Crepis including Pterotheca on the basis of x=5. Pterotheca  falconeri grows in Himalayas, and subtropical North India. Prof Mehra advocated separate identify for Pterotheca on the basis of x=3 in the genus. We worked with original material from Himalayas, and every time found n=5 in Pterotheca falconeri. When we reported this to Prof. Mehra and sought his justification for his separation, his simple answer was: oh your material must be having B chromosomes. That happens.
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